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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

It's Monday and so it's LGB Alliance on Woman's Hour to discuss the Supreme Court judgment

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nauticant · 19/05/2025 10:10

Our CEO Kate Barker will be on BBCWomansHour at 10am today, talking about our role as one of the Lesbian Interveners in the recent landmark Supreme Court judgment clarifying the Equality Act to secure LGB rights.

https://x.com/AllianceLGB/status/1924375419106562269

It hasn't yet started but it'll be on shortly

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nauticant · 19/05/2025 10:14

@Greyskyblueskyposted an earlier thread. We can post there instead:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5337802-lgba-on-womans-hour-190525

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Madcats · 19/05/2025 10:33

This was a great argument from Kate to the “what about butch lesbians being challenged in the ladies?”
”You had RMW on last week. He is over 6ft tall, well built with a deep baritone voice…He says he has been using the ladies for years and nobody has ever challenged him. The likelihood of butch lesbians being constantly challenged is remote”

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2025 11:15

That was my favourite part. She was appropriately dismissive of them trying to have their cake and eat it.

Datun · 19/05/2025 14:29

That was great. There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that people who have listened to each of these episodes, won't be forming the same opinion.

That the women are reasonable, rational, normal, and the men are incoherent, illogical, and well, for want of a better phrase, completely and utterly wrong. 😁

No person accepts that men who say they are lesbians are, or have ever been, anything other than heterosexual chancers.

nettie434 · 19/05/2025 23:18

Madcats · 19/05/2025 10:33

This was a great argument from Kate to the “what about butch lesbians being challenged in the ladies?”
”You had RMW on last week. He is over 6ft tall, well built with a deep baritone voice…He says he has been using the ladies for years and nobody has ever challenged him. The likelihood of butch lesbians being constantly challenged is remote”

I don't think I've ever heard that argument before. I completely agree with Madcats that it's very good.

I've actually thought that Woman's Hour has done quite well by having these interviews. How I wish I knew the inside story to their earlier reluctance to even acknowledge that TWAW was not the only viewpoint that existed. It's clear that Jane Garvey was influential but why did Emma Barnett manage to achieve a certain amount of debate when Jeni Murray clearly got nowhere?

Sacha Deshmukh was awful. I actually had more sympathy for Robin Moira White.

Datun · 20/05/2025 14:19

Madcats · 19/05/2025 10:33

This was a great argument from Kate to the “what about butch lesbians being challenged in the ladies?”
”You had RMW on last week. He is over 6ft tall, well built with a deep baritone voice…He says he has been using the ladies for years and nobody has ever challenged him. The likelihood of butch lesbians being constantly challenged is remote”

Yes that was genius. And absolutely bloody true.

You can't have it both ways.

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