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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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ArabellaScott · 09/05/2025 18:20

She was 18 at the time, a rape survivor. And she's a mother.

I'm so sorry, Martyna.

wantmorenow · 09/05/2025 18:24

That is shocking - poor woman. Can we rally the vipers to put public pressure on the system? I admit IANAL and probably being very naive.

musicalfrog · 09/05/2025 18:27

Maybe something for David Challen to get involved with.

Oldfashioneddinosaur · 09/05/2025 18:28

Oh god, a living nightmare. Just awful.

MadameSzyszkoBohusz · 09/05/2025 18:29

Jesus. That’s fucking abhorrent. That poor, poor woman.

WandaSiri · 09/05/2025 18:30

So because she carried a knife it isn't self defence? That's nonsense. If you go looking for someone with a knife, or go to answer your door with a knife, that's one thing. But she didn't know she was going to be attacked by that man, or any man particularly. Of course it's self-defence. She wasn't planning on using the knife except in self defence!

Poor Martyna. So young, too.

musicalfrog · 09/05/2025 18:31

Most women in prison are there because of men. Men who traumatised them and drove them to a life of addiction. Men who abused them and drove them to assault or murder.

I've said it before, if there were no men, there would be no need for women's prisons.

And yet more reason why women's prisons should be female only. Vast majority of them are victims and are only there because of men. It makes me so mad.

Lemonz · 09/05/2025 18:32

Horrific.

Not self defence because she was carrying a knife. But if she hadn't had a knife she'd have stood no chance of defending herself.

She'd have been raped and possibly murdered and I'm sure that would have been much better, after all she's just a woman.

Is Justice for Women still in the game?

IwantToRetire · 09/05/2025 18:35

Women are scared when alone out doors. Even politicians now that and accept more needs to be done to make the street safe for women.

So in the meantime if women carry a knife to feel safer from men, because the male political system has failed to do this, she is then at fault?

(Not to in anyway agree with the judgement but the law on those carrying knives, means that it is viewed you have intent.)

Its loathsome because the court is saying, no you should have let him rape you.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 09/05/2025 18:35

That poor woman.

Lemonz · 09/05/2025 18:36

Oops I see Justice for Women is actually mentioned in the article. Teach me to skim read.

Teddlesisagoodboy · 09/05/2025 18:41

God that is awful. I wish there was something we could do?

nocoolnamesleft · 09/05/2025 18:41

That poor young woman. When she did report rape, she was failed by the justice system. When she defended herself, they ignored that she was trying to defend her self. What the fuck was she meant to do, just let him kill her?

TERF4Life · 09/05/2025 18:42

Can any legal bods advise if she can appeal again?

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OuterSpaceCadet · 09/05/2025 18:43

I'm struggling with the bit where the judge acknowledges she has PTSD but says it was due to moving from Poland and bullying and couldn't possibly be from being raped at 14 because he has decided she hadn't been raped at 14.

OuterSpaceCadet · 09/05/2025 18:49

Do men even understand what limited responses women actually have to rapists?

Freeze / appease/ acquiescence: you might come out alive but people don't believe you were raped

Flight: only possible in limited circumstances

Fight: men are almost always stronger. Without an element of surprise you risk any violence being turned back on you far worse.

AnotherDelphinium · 09/05/2025 18:49

Wow. This is absolutely shocking!

@ArabellaScott thanks for the link, it’s even more terrifying with the additional content and background!

Toseland · 09/05/2025 18:50

Just unbelievable - women are being jailed for extreme sentences whilst men walk free!

NameChangedOfc · 09/05/2025 18:53

If anything can be called mysoginy, this is clearly it. How depraved you have to be to not consider this self defense...

AsTreesWalking · 09/05/2025 19:06

I don't understand why there was any question about it being rape when she was 14 - too young to give consent surely? This is just dreadful .

Totallymessed · 09/05/2025 19:07

IANAL, is there anything that can be done?

thenoisiesttermagant · 09/05/2025 19:10

Would writing to MPs help? Surely the judge's impartiality should be called into account. To dismiss what must be rape at 14?

TERF4Life · 09/05/2025 19:11

Totallymessed · 09/05/2025 19:07

IANAL, is there anything that can be done?

I’ve posted on the legal board asking for help.

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