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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”

480 replies

TheIsleOfTERF · 05/05/2025 16:56

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/iQskn15N11

For anyone interested on theories of how TERF Island has come to be!

Get the bingo board out as it has all the classics!

-Housewives
-Lonely
-Jealous
-Funded by the right wing

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LawnBoy · 06/05/2025 19:15

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 06/05/2025 18:44

They're also very single issue and more tolerant of intolerance.

Single-issue campaigning gets shit done. Every time you add another stance to your group, you risk alienating people.

I won't be friends with white supremacist 4channers just because they're trans,

You don't have to be "friends" with someone to form a strategic alliance with them about a single issue.

I think this is it in a nutshell. Due to the purity politics at play, they struggle to form strategic alliances even within their own community. A commenter on that thread claimed there was more diversity among trans people than TERFs because trans people are divided over fundamental things, such as what it means to be trans. That commenter certainly raises a good point. If you're so busy castigating members of your own "community" for being transmedicalists or anti-neopronoun or simply disagreeing with one minor point of doctrine, you're not forming a united front line against the evil TERFs.

Whereas we have a lot of diversity of thought (some so-called "TERF" women don't actually consider themselves particularly feminist, some have devoted years to understanding feminist theory, some lean more conservative, some are Marxist) but will generally pull together on certain issues. There are exceptions as some on the far left won't work with for e.g. KJK but it still holds mostly true from what I can see.

DeanElderberry · 06/05/2025 19:29

That cake sounds fab.

Any other ganttphobes out there? I think it's something to do with my never diagnosed but definitely there adhd. I can do things, but I don't do them the way I'm meant to do them, and charts paralyse me. If the TRAs want to prevent me from being organised and to reduce me to a sobbing whimpering wreck, all they need to do is make a gantt chart . . .

Boiledbeetle · 06/05/2025 19:30

@Igneococcus

"55g starch , any type will be fine"

Any type? Are you sure? I mean sure it makes my t shirts look great, but in cake?

“Why are TERFs so well organized compared to us?”
drspouse · 06/05/2025 19:34

They forgot "we are all living in our mum's basement telling ourselves we are disabled and the world owes us a living".

Igneococcus · 06/05/2025 19:35

Boiledbeetle · 06/05/2025 19:30

@Igneococcus

"55g starch , any type will be fine"

Any type? Are you sure? I mean sure it makes my t shirts look great, but in cake?

Maybe not spray starch (whatever that is)

SionnachRuadh · 06/05/2025 19:36

DeanElderberry · 06/05/2025 19:29

That cake sounds fab.

Any other ganttphobes out there? I think it's something to do with my never diagnosed but definitely there adhd. I can do things, but I don't do them the way I'm meant to do them, and charts paralyse me. If the TRAs want to prevent me from being organised and to reduce me to a sobbing whimpering wreck, all they need to do is make a gantt chart . . .

I can't thole gantt charts at all.

Nor am I handy with any recipe involving meringue. I can make a pretty good soda bread, and I'm confident it's good because more than once I've suffered the indignity of leaving it out to cool and then discovering the cat has stolen it.

DeanElderberry · 06/05/2025 19:42

Just because cats can steal soda bread doesn't mean they should.

I must go and attempt to frost-proof my courgettes before I forget.

BackToLurk · 06/05/2025 19:48

Boiledbeetle · 06/05/2025 18:51

I see the gerbils have very wisely opted to bake more than required. Although I notice there is no time dedicated to the drizzling on the lemon drizzle cakes.

I'll tell Gladys she needs to redo the gantt chart.

There are no vegan options on the chart. You monster.

Waitwhat23 · 06/05/2025 20:09

SionnachRuadh · 06/05/2025 19:36

I can't thole gantt charts at all.

Nor am I handy with any recipe involving meringue. I can make a pretty good soda bread, and I'm confident it's good because more than once I've suffered the indignity of leaving it out to cool and then discovering the cat has stolen it.

Thinking of long lost cats of mine, one licked the icing off one whole side of a cake (which then had to binned, cake not cat) which had been foolishly left unattended.

Another cat forced his way into the room where there was a table full of chippie teas while we went into the next room to sing happy birthday and when we came back in, had a full battered haddock in his mouth. Despite the mouthful, he hissed with rage at being discovered and escaped with his ill gotten gains.

dubaichocolate · 06/05/2025 20:11

They never question why it’s because they’re rich housewives that they’ve been able to campaign on this issue, do they? Or indeed if it’s typical that eg a rich housewife would spend their weekends trekking across the country to enable ordinary women to speak. They think the involvement of rich housewives shows it’s an elitist campaign when actually their campaign has the elitist, privileged women.

SionnachRuadh · 06/05/2025 20:15

Waitwhat23 · 06/05/2025 20:09

Thinking of long lost cats of mine, one licked the icing off one whole side of a cake (which then had to binned, cake not cat) which had been foolishly left unattended.

Another cat forced his way into the room where there was a table full of chippie teas while we went into the next room to sing happy birthday and when we came back in, had a full battered haddock in his mouth. Despite the mouthful, he hissed with rage at being discovered and escaped with his ill gotten gains.

One of mine, many years ago, obviously went around the area looking for open kitchen doors, and one night came home bearing a whole string of uncooked sausages.

This was not the same one who used to jump on my knee when I was having dinner and try to steal fish fingers off my plate.

DeanElderberry · 06/05/2025 20:30

Emily Grey ate the royal icing off a Christmas cake many decades ago. Iirc we replaced the almond paste and re-iced.

The cat before her upset me terribly when she had a ghastly stomach upset and produced black-and-red spotted stools for several days. My poor cat, 15 years old, obviously dying. Then I found she'd eaten the best part of a Christmas cake full of currants and glacé cherries and whiskey . . .

She lived to 22.

Nowadays I don't trust a clean tea towel to protect a cake on its own.

newrubylane · 06/05/2025 20:32

fromorbit · 06/05/2025 09:56

Latest GC organisation news from those in the know.

https://x.com/AjaTheEmpress/status/1919647583749709836

"A recent ex-GC person said this week that the GC movement is highly organised, operating in local cells of about 50 people to a cell, carrying out leafleting and other operations, with private WhatsApp groups which are mostly mockery of trans people and advocates."

How did they find out about size of the local cells? Who has been blabbing?

How do I find my local cell? I'd quite like to join 😁

ChompandaGrazia · 06/05/2025 20:34

Igneococcus · 06/05/2025 19:12

Right, this is a German recipe so it's for 28 cm diameter springform, you can put it into a slightly smaller one too:
100 g butter
100 g sugar
some vanilla essence
3 egg yolks
150 g flour
55 g starch , any type will be fine
1.5 tsp baking powder

Cream butter and sugar, add egg yolks, add flour, starch and baking powder, put into the bottom of a baking paper lined springform. This isn't a soft batter, I press it into the baking tray with my hands. It will be nice and fluffy once baked nevertheless.
Arrange a layer of peeled rhubarb on top. Works well with other tart fruit too, gooseberries for example.

3 egg whites
pinch of salt
150 g sugar (my mum always used half caster and half icing, not sure why, it works with either one)

Beat egg whites with salt until stiff, carefully add sugar, pile the meringue mix on top of the rhubarb.
Bake at 160 C for at least 80 min, you can prop the door slightly open for the last 20 min to let any steam escape so that the meringue can crisp up.
Best eaten fresh.

I’m confused by the starch. Does that mean corn flour?

newrubylane · 06/05/2025 20:38

Slothtoes · 06/05/2025 10:51

No. It’s all hyperbolic claims about erasure.
I don’t think they could summarise that women want to preserve their own single sex spaces and to uphold safeguarding for women and children.

They don’t see that many women don’t give a shit about upholding gender norms for themselves or anyone else, so long as biological sex differences and disparities are at all times respected.

And they are definitely willing to not tackle the misogyny, homophobia, and specifically lesbophobia that is central in their own regressive politics.

This might actually be one of their fundamental problems - they're so busy playing the man (big bad terfs) that they've completely lost sight of the ball (our position).

Igneococcus · 06/05/2025 20:38

ChompandaGrazia · 06/05/2025 20:34

I’m confused by the starch. Does that mean corn flour?

Yes, corn flour, or potato flour/starch also works.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 06/05/2025 20:42

It's all in the recipes chit-chat. If you decode it right, you have the details of your local cell (with all the right wing funding).
🎂➕🍋🕛🌗↔⚡➡🏧🏡
@newrubylane

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/05/2025 20:44

There are cells now????

first the garden parties, now the cunning secret cells made up of 50 women each that I’m not invited to be part of either!!!!

(btw I thought there were only 6 of us so how are doing cells of 50?)

MyrtleLion · 06/05/2025 20:44

newrubylane · 06/05/2025 20:32

How do I find my local cell? I'd quite like to join 😁

You have to look out of your window on the night if a full moon. If you hear an owl.you can check the second bench on the left in the park the following morning. There you will find a note with a phone number. Buy a burner phone so you can't be traced and text the number with the code that you will find on a similar piece of paper the night after you find the number. You should receive a recorded voice message in return but don't answer the phone or you will have to start again. Listen to the voice message which will instruct you on the vetting process. Once you are safely through the vetting process, (usually a genital check and a taste test of your lemon drizzle), you will receive a microdot via WhatsApp which will allocate you to your cell. If you don't hear the owl you'll have to wait till the next full moon unless you hear a blackbird in which case you're a TRA and will be banned because blackbirds are not nocturnal.

Alternatively get in touch with the Women's Rights Network and they'll put you in touch with your local group.

Fimofriend · 06/05/2025 20:44

mrshoho · 05/05/2025 19:06

Thanks for the link. It's been quite enlightening lol. I guess it's progress that they are now scratching their heads and reflecting on where it all went wrong. So they've worked out a) right wing billions b) jkr billions c) 10 vs 10000 so we are easier to manage our little selves.

But OK own up which one of you terfs went down the comments and disliked every single one? 😆. One of them noticed lots of negatives so they went back through each one and liked to offset.

Me. Would be an awful shame if the rest of you did the same. Oh, well I guess six down votes won't really matter anyway.....

Funny how they are so caught up in rigid gender roles that they can only imagine that we are either housewives or unemployed.
Never ever occurred to them that we might be doctors, lawyers, teachers, financial experts, nurses, scientists, CEOs, physicists or anything that requires an education really.

Doesn't occur to them that we took time out off our busy schedules to fight back because we are defending ourselves. Doesn't occur to them that we are people. We are just two dimensional utilities to them. How dare we have opinions! Would be like if the refrigerator got to have an opinion.

newrubylane · 06/05/2025 21:02

MyrtleLion · 06/05/2025 20:44

You have to look out of your window on the night if a full moon. If you hear an owl.you can check the second bench on the left in the park the following morning. There you will find a note with a phone number. Buy a burner phone so you can't be traced and text the number with the code that you will find on a similar piece of paper the night after you find the number. You should receive a recorded voice message in return but don't answer the phone or you will have to start again. Listen to the voice message which will instruct you on the vetting process. Once you are safely through the vetting process, (usually a genital check and a taste test of your lemon drizzle), you will receive a microdot via WhatsApp which will allocate you to your cell. If you don't hear the owl you'll have to wait till the next full moon unless you hear a blackbird in which case you're a TRA and will be banned because blackbirds are not nocturnal.

Alternatively get in touch with the Women's Rights Network and they'll put you in touch with your local group.

Thanks. I'll start perfecting my lemon drizzle recipe stat!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/05/2025 21:22

Igneococcus · 06/05/2025 19:12

Right, this is a German recipe so it's for 28 cm diameter springform, you can put it into a slightly smaller one too:
100 g butter
100 g sugar
some vanilla essence
3 egg yolks
150 g flour
55 g starch , any type will be fine
1.5 tsp baking powder

Cream butter and sugar, add egg yolks, add flour, starch and baking powder, put into the bottom of a baking paper lined springform. This isn't a soft batter, I press it into the baking tray with my hands. It will be nice and fluffy once baked nevertheless.
Arrange a layer of peeled rhubarb on top. Works well with other tart fruit too, gooseberries for example.

3 egg whites
pinch of salt
150 g sugar (my mum always used half caster and half icing, not sure why, it works with either one)

Beat egg whites with salt until stiff, carefully add sugar, pile the meringue mix on top of the rhubarb.
Bake at 160 C for at least 80 min, you can prop the door slightly open for the last 20 min to let any steam escape so that the meringue can crisp up.
Best eaten fresh.

Lovely thanks! The rhubarb goes on raw and cooks underneath the meringue or have I misunderstood?

Igneococcus · 06/05/2025 21:37

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/05/2025 21:22

Lovely thanks! The rhubarb goes on raw and cooks underneath the meringue or have I misunderstood?

Yes, that's right. It needs long and slow baking to ensure the rhubarb is cooked and the meringue doesn't burn, that is the only slightly tricky bit with this cake.

EdithStourton · 06/05/2025 21:41

Pluvia · 06/05/2025 14:15

Um... Camilla is the Queen consort and often referred to as the Queen.

Duh
<multiple embarrassment emojis>

Boiledbeetle · 06/05/2025 21:49

EdithStourton · 06/05/2025 21:41

Duh
<multiple embarrassment emojis>

I always forget she's queen, probably because the actual queen the only monarch I've lived under before Charles, never had a king by her side