Stephen King can feck off, vol 3 or so

[teawamutu]

1. Throws JK Rowling under the bus.
2. Espouses luxury beliefs.
3. Writes a book about all the women in the world going to sleep and then eventually deciding to leave the male-free utopia they find themselves in because look, the menz have totally fucked up and need them and it's their duty.
4. Donates signed books for an auction raising money for trans rights.
5. Latest tome is about the stalking of a feminist activist.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

Fuck off, Stephen. If you mean a real feminist activist, you're firmly on the side of the people doing the stalking.

If the cool girl male-centring kind, fuck off and stop mansplaining feminism.

Either way just FUCK OFF.

Yes I know I'm unreasonably irritated by this.

But honestly.

I didn’t know about any of this, but have long wanted the guy to fuck off so I salute you @teawamutu and let’s hope he fucks off fast.

Please add a FUCK OFF from me too.

😆the most annoying thing is that I really do enjoy most of his books.

But I don't fund misogyny, so I refuse to pay for them. Obviously that's no impact at all on the pile of gold he can prob sleep on but whatever. Off to ZLib I go with no qualms.

Yeah definitely fuck off Steve. All those drugs finally fucked your head up.

He’s just another man who doesn’t get it, because he doesn’t have to get it. Luxury beliefs indeed.

I used to love his books as a teenager but haven’t read anything of his in ages. I get that the literary world is pretty captured, but he is someone who doesn’t have to worry about being cancelled - he’s already made his millions long ago.

I used to enjoy his earlier work. I even overlooked the bizarre and utterly disturbing group sex scene in IT. (You know the one!) But his TRA bootlicking started enraging me more and more, esp. when he threw Rowling under the bus. Then I read a story where the murdering, sexually sadistic psychopath, and domineering sicko mother turns out to be a lesbian or is inferred to be one. With pages of contemptuous, misogynistic description about how butch, and therefore repulsive, she looks. That was it. Never read King thereafter.

I do definitely know the first scene but I'm struggling to place the second. Hint?

He’s just another man who doesn’t get it, because he doesn’t have to get it.

Except it seemed to me he did in the past. I enjoyed Rose Madder from 1995, whose protagonist was a female victim of domestic violence, with a lot of it set in a women's shelter. The shelter's strict single-sex nature and the threat of men and their physical strength were all quite prominent.

Given the way he's acting now, I'd be interested to know if any women who read it found anything off there. All throughout his books he's always seemed to me like a keen observer of human nature, particular its darker side, and that book felt to me like he got this area as much as anything else.

VG point, @NecessaryScene

I'm assuming there's a trans-identifying relation somewhere in the background. There usually is.

I assume this too, especially as him and his family come across as quite neurodivergent. The whole SFF / Horror fandom is heavily neurodivergent. He saw how those same fans turned on JKR and decided to stay on the stress free gravy train. I haven't read him since (and he said himself his most loved book was The Stand, written in 1979) so I doubt I'm missing much these days.

Its a short story called "Big Driver" in a book called "Full Dark, No Stars"
It's about revenge for a brutal rape

He hasn't written a decent book since the 80's, sadly it seems the rest of what he writes is also a load of crap!

Didn't know he was this bad, but never liked him.

What's he done recently? I remember him praising JKR's writing, gwtting pushback, denouncing her views and then ignoring it all to the best of his ability.

He mentions JKR in passing in a few of his books now. I’m not sure what the motivation is.
I have always thought he writes women well and he writes bravery well. Shame he’s such a coward in real life. He’s one that’s really upset me as as pp says, he’s far too rich for cancellation and he clearly knows all about biological reality. I think he did send a tweet once supporting JKR which she thanked him for and was clearly really happy about, but a bit of backlash and he rowed back.

I actually do think he wants to come out as GC and be mates with JKR but he clearly has issues being disliked.

I was also surprised by his twitter behaviour on account of Rose Madder, but I notice he never comes down as fully TWAW himself in his posts. I think he's trying to preserve a family relationship with a TWAW-inclined family member, while not fully compromising his own inner convictions.

I imagine it's got a lot to do with his daughter... who was a lesbian, but now seems to identify as a they/them queer and genderqueer fat person according to the website...

www.revnaomibodyspirit.com

Luckily they are widely available in charity shops
So you can read & he doesn’t make any ££

BTW I drove fairly close to Teawamutu a few weeks ago & thought of you. (In Waikato visiting family). Great name.

I think he's trying to preserve a family relationship with a TWAW-inclined family member, while not fully compromising his own inner convictions.

I agree - there are lots of people who've got misogyny written through them like a stick of rock, and you can tell that the trans thing is how that surfaces.

I find it hard to believe that would apply to King, and I don't get that impression. It seems like he's doing a bare-minimum performance to appease someone suspecting him of wrongthink. He'll pop up Havel's greengrocer's sign.

I guess we can't expect great writers to be great characters, or want to get involved in political fights.

Particularly in his part of the US, any suggestion of not wanting to put up a "trans rights" sign would be getting involved in a fight.

He wrote a scene where a group of children escaped a monster by all having sex with the one girl in the group, who initiated it herself because it gave her so much joy to show them all her love that way. I know it was the 80s but fuck's sake.
He also complained about rich people the other day and the dude is a zillionaire.

I admit he did a very funny takedown of himself in his cameo in the last It film, but honestly who cares what he thinks of anything.

Meh - he's entitled to his opinions.

I mean, I agree he's a twat but he's not the worst of them out there.

I love his books as well. I stopped buying them after what he did to JKR. They always crop up in charity shops at some point.

I usually like the start of his books but he really can't do endings. The thing I hate about him most though is his love of hunting/huntsmen, even though his own dog was shot by one of them. And the end of The Stand - put me firmly on the side of Randall Flagg. Although I probably would have been anyway.

I quite like him as a writer. My favourite book of all time is Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank redemption which is obviously outside his main genre and I love the book he wrote about becoming a writer.

He is wrong about this issue IMHO and he is wedded to his views but now that the situation is firmly in full reverse I don’t mind as much. When the direction was full steam ahead and all aboard the trans train it was much harder to take. I grew up in Ireland where you had to learn to live with people whose views you deeply opposed like divorce and particularly abortion. It is all about playing the well thought out long game and women have played an absolute blinder over and over on this issue. So Stephen King can just hold on to his views all he wants JKR has had a much much more significant voice in this and plenty of people respect her for that.

Could anyone please explain to me what is meant by “a queer and genderqueer… person” ?