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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowlings latest tweet. Just wow!

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Imnobody4 · 03/05/2025 20:36

I've copied it in full.
https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1918747065460420745?t=bPXQ2pY9VAwPPqFR26_vvw&s=19

In light of recent open letters from academia and the arts criticising the UK's Supreme Court ruling on sex-based rights, it's possibly worth remembering that nobody sane believes, or has ever believed, that humans can change sex, or that binary sex isn't a material fact. These letters do nothing but remind us of what we know only too well: that pretending to believe these things has become an elitist badge of virtue.

I often wonder whether the signatories of such letters have to quieten their consciences before publicly boosting a movement intent on removing women's and girls' rights, which bullies gay people who admit openly they don't want opposite sex partners, and campaigns for the continued sterilisation of vulnerable and troubled kids. Do they feel any qualms at all while chanting the foundational lie of their religion: Trans Women are Women, Trans Men are Men?

I have no idea. All I know for sure is that it's a complete waste of time telling a gender activist that their favourite slogan is self-contradictory nonsense, because the lie is the whole point. They're not repeating it because it's true - they know full well it's not true - but because they believe they can make it true, sort of, if they force everyone else to agree. The foundational lie functions as both catechism and crucifix: the set form of words that obviates the tedious necessity of coming up with your own explanation of why you're one of the Godly, and an exorcist's weapon which will defeat demonic facts and reason, and promote the advance of righteous pseudoscience and sophistry.

Some argue that signatories of these sorts of letters are motivated by fear: fear for their careers, of course, but also fear of their co-religionists, who include angry, narcissistic men who threaten and sometimes enact violence on non-believers; back-stabbing colleagues ever ready to report wrongthink; the online shamers and doxxers and rape threateners, and, of course, the influential zealots in the upper echelons of liberal professions (though we can quibble whether they're actually liberal at all, given the draconian authoritarianism that seems to have engulfed so many). Gender ideology could give medieval Catholicism a run for its money when it comes to punishing heretics, so isn't it common sense to keep your head down and recite your Hail Mulvaneys?

But before we start feeling too sorry for any cowed and fearful TWAWites who're TERFy on the sly, let's not forget what a high proportion of them have willingly snatched up pitchforks and torches to join the inquisitional purges. Call me lacking in proper womanly sympathy, but I find the harm they've enabled and in some cases directly championed or funded - the hounding and shaming of vulnerable women, the forced loss of livelihoods, the unregulated medical experiment on minors - tends to dry up my tears at source.

History is littered with the debris of irrational and harmful belief systems that once seemed unassailable. As Orwell said, 'Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.' Gender ideology may have embedded itself deeply into our institutions, where it's been imposed, top-down, on the supposedly unenlightened, but it is not invulnerable.

Court losses are starting to stack up. The condescension, overreach, entitlement and aggression of gender activists is eroding public support daily. Women are fighting back and winning significant victories. Sporting bodies have miraculously awoken from their slumber and remembered that males tend to be larger, stronger and faster than females. Parts of the medical establishment are questioning cutting healthy breasts off teenaged girls is really the best way to fix their mental health problems.

One seemingly harmless little white lie - Trans Women are Women, Trans Men are Men - uttered in most cases without any real thought at all, and a few short years later, people who think of themselves as supremely virtuous are typing 'yes, rapists' pronouns are absolutely the hill I'll die on,' rubbing shoulders with those who call for women to be hanged and decapitated for wanting all-female rape crisis centres, and furiously denying clear and mounting evidence of the greatest medical scandal in a century.

I wonder if they ever ask themselves how they got here, and I wonder whether any of them will ever feel shame.

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1918747065460420745?s=19&t=bPXQ2pY9VAwPPqFR26_vvw

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GameOfJones · 03/05/2025 22:24

@facts6754 Thank you for illustrating the point so perfectly.

That in the face of eloquent, insightful, logical truth you and the TRAs have no comeback. You know you kneel at an altar based on lies so all you have left is your pitchforks and slinging insults.

JKR is an absolute queen and the irony of your username is hilarious.

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:24

@MrMeddle You say that but its trans women today and cis women tomorrow.

UrsulasHerbBag · 03/05/2025 22:24

That’s a very strong heartfelt statement from a very decent kind woman.

MrsMappFlint · 03/05/2025 22:25

She is amazing and if this government did one thing right, it would be to make her a Dame or a Lady which would honour her and tell the rest of us that they believe her -the madness has stopped- but of course they don't/won't believe that no-one can change sex because they are on the side of men.

Cometh the tide, cometh the woman-well done, Joanne Kathleen, well done-again.

SerafinasGoose · 03/05/2025 22:25

AInightingale · 03/05/2025 21:08

That letter has some odd signatories, like Dr Caressa Dick, Professor Fellatio Hornblower, Sissy P. Orn, and Dixie Rect, Professor of Gender Studies.

I love UK terfs. 🤣💗

When I read this post I cackled and honked like a bilious goose.

BackToLurk · 03/05/2025 22:26

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Operation Let Them Speak is my favourite

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 03/05/2025 22:26

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

Did you read the post at 22.21? I am guessing not

Thedogscollar · 03/05/2025 22:27

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What's up?

FOJN · 03/05/2025 22:27

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

Could you please take your trantrum elsewhere, your mum isn't here.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 03/05/2025 22:27

Love that woman to bits. But I will say she has had her head over the parapet for sometime. I've also not been shy to say publicly what I think. There are plenty on here however who have hidden. Time now ladies or gents to come out publicly and be counted.

ThatNimblePeer · 03/05/2025 22:28

Lavender2015 · 03/05/2025 22:17

It wasn’t necessarily ‘anti-catholic rhetoric’, if you have a quick skim of the history of Catholicism you cannot avoid the brutal torture and violence the church inflicted on non-believers across Europe in the 15th and 16th centuries. An uncomfortable truth doesn’t make it any less true and make you any less entitled to hold your belief in their teachings.

So do you have any actual examples of TRAs inflicting brutal torture and violence on gender critical people? I know about deplatforming and hounding people out of their jobs, and I know the horrible rhetoric about throat punching TERFs - I’m not defending any of that. But do you have any examples of actual torture and actual violence? In any systematic way? Because if not, then I think JKR’s letting herself down with the comparison to medieval Catholicism. Don’t pose as the bastion of common sense and then say something completely over the top.

BiologicalRobot · 03/05/2025 22:28

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

But they don't....

Where the hell have you been living these past few years? Pluto?

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2025 22:29

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:18

@Dymaxion Yes, non-cisgender women. Do you really think that predators would pretend to be women to assault women? No, they’d just walk right in the women’s toilets and do it.

'Non cis gender women'

For those of us whose first language is English do you mean man?

UrsulasHerbBag · 03/05/2025 22:29

Oh! There’s a stray from Reddit! @facts6754 Own up who left the gates open? Does someone have a spray?

myplace · 03/05/2025 22:29

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

Steady on. Your total ignorance of this subject is showing. You obviously haven’t actually read up or thought about the discussion at all. You’re just vomiting up wholesale the same tired irrelevant slogans.

There’s brilliant explanatory threads on here that will take you by the hand and lead you out of the woods so you can see the wood. You need them because your are lost and wandering cluelessly.

Espressosummer · 03/05/2025 22:29

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

So transwomen are only women if medically transitioned? Don't tell the TRAs that, they will want your head.

I don't think a man is necessarily going to medically transition to assault women. I think men remain men and men like to assault women. It doesn't matter who or what men cos play as, they remain abusers, rapists and murderers.

And they wouldn't have to medically transition if TRAs got their way. Or have you forgotten about self-ID?

thirdfiddle · 03/05/2025 22:29

She is amazing and if this government did one thing right, it would be to make her a Dame or a Lady which would honour her and tell the rest of us that they believe her -the madness has stopped- but of course they don't/won't believe that no-one can change sex because they are on the side of men.

JKR has been offered honours and politely declined. Of course she has, she's probably the most famous living author in the world.

Hoydenish · 03/05/2025 22:30

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

Hi there, how very transphobic of you. People are not expected to or required to change any aspect of themselves or their bodies to become a transperson. Go and have a think about what you have done. It is very upsetting.

EweSurname · 03/05/2025 22:31

It’s not fashionable to stand up for women. It would have been so easy to have turned a blind eye and carry on but the fact that she spoke out for women, against the zeitgeist and loud opposition, is what makes her brave and compassionate.

Boiledbeetle · 03/05/2025 22:31

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

£20 a bag, it's good stuff, but I don't deliver.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/05/2025 22:31

FOJN · 03/05/2025 22:27

Could you please take your trantrum elsewhere, your mum isn't here.

She might be.

NameChangedOfc · 03/05/2025 22:33

👑

MrsMappFlint · 03/05/2025 22:34

thirdfiddle · 03/05/2025 22:29

She is amazing and if this government did one thing right, it would be to make her a Dame or a Lady which would honour her and tell the rest of us that they believe her -the madness has stopped- but of course they don't/won't believe that no-one can change sex because they are on the side of men.

JKR has been offered honours and politely declined. Of course she has, she's probably the most famous living author in the world.

I didn't know that.

I do wish she would take one though because it would mean a lot to someone like me, who could think that someone who has the same views has been honoured and not reviled, as men pretending to be women-and their allies-want her to be.

Coffeedreaming · 03/05/2025 22:34

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:22

Oh for gods sake… do you really think people would MEDICALLY TRANSITION and go through YEARS of medical and social transitioning to assault women???? it doesnt stop cis men from doing it so i want whatever you guys are smoking.

You do realise that most of them don’t right?

Nearly all keep their penises too.

Theyre not Hayley Croppers which is what TRAs want people to believe

UrsulasHerbBag · 03/05/2025 22:34

facts6754 · 03/05/2025 22:01

@RufustheFactuaIReindeer No, she is. Sex doesnt equal gender.

Transphobe.

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