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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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Boiledbeetle · 02/05/2025 13:57

I'm conflicted! This is patently a bonkers petition but I find myself wanting it to hit 10,000 just to see what the government respond with!

New petition wanting to remove protected beliefs
PaintDecisions · 02/05/2025 14:03

Can we not report these sorts of nonsense petitions when they are calling for things that are unlawful or are just a waste of everyone's time?

DialSquare · 02/05/2025 14:21

Boiledbeetle · 02/05/2025 13:57

I'm conflicted! This is patently a bonkers petition but I find myself wanting it to hit 10,000 just to see what the government respond with!

Zero signatures from my area!

SirChenjins · 02/05/2025 14:27

None from my area either. Student life was much simpler in my day - people stood outside the union with petitions to bring down the price of cider and black to 50p, and they got their responses that way.

FortyElephants · 02/05/2025 14:30

Datun · 02/05/2025 13:51

No way!

Brighton 🙄
You can't throw a rainbow coloured stick there without hitting at least 3 mutual social media friends...

DialSquare · 02/05/2025 14:30

SirChenjins · 02/05/2025 14:27

None from my area either. Student life was much simpler in my day - people stood outside the union with petitions to bring down the price of cider and black to 50p, and they got their responses that way.

Not just simpler, much more understandable too.

IHeartHalloumi · 02/05/2025 14:34

The text of the petition reads like it was written by poor quality AI.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/05/2025 14:38

#Operation Let Them Speak still in full flow I see? 😂

PronounssheRa · 02/05/2025 14:39

I'm half tempted to sign it, just to get it debated

Its gloriously bonkers, that they don't seem to recognise how they are petitioning to restrict other people's freedom of thought and belief, is just the icing on the cake.

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 14:39

DrSpartacularsMagnificentOctopus · 02/05/2025 12:15

Twerps.

If GC isn't protected neither is not believing in GC.

Another Marty McFly example of a paradox that erases your own interests, own identity and own protections.

Also one thats utterly impossible to legislate in the way they wish.

The protected characteristic they fall under is gender reassignment (inc those going through the process) - not gender identity. This matters.

If they can't get the basic wording right, they are doomed to fail. Thats fine by me.

ParmaVioletTea · 02/05/2025 14:46

Unsurprising that most signatories are in Brighton

D'you think Brighton will implode and disappear off the face of the earth when we all go there for the FiLIA conference?

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 14:47

We think removing the protection of the Equality Act for "gender critical beliefs" could better protect trans, non-binary and gender diverse people. It could support organisations to properly protect this marginalised community, whose rights we believe are currently being attacked and politicised.

GREAT.

They do realise that this is impossible under UK law without leaving the ECHR...

... the court they want to appeal the Supreme Court Ruling to?

Don't they?

(Rhetorical Question)

Mmmnotsure · 02/05/2025 14:56

ParmaVioletTea · 02/05/2025 14:46

Unsurprising that most signatories are in Brighton

D'you think Brighton will implode and disappear off the face of the earth when we all go there for the FiLIA conference?

I did think that that was an, um, interesting choice of location.

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 15:01

Mmmnotsure · 02/05/2025 14:56

I did think that that was an, um, interesting choice of location.

It'll get more media interest than Blackpool. Or Runcorn.

MarieDeGournay · 02/05/2025 15:04

Extraordinarily daft. It's like saying - I'm all for Universal Human Rights as long as them 'uns don't get any🙄

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/05/2025 15:10

BRING IT ON

i can’t quite bring myself to sign the petition but I’m all for this being debated in parliament. Sunlight only ever moves the dial one way

I’m very much looking forward to the explanation of why we should criminalise people who object to gender stereotypes

PaintDecisions · 02/05/2025 15:19

SirChenjins · 02/05/2025 14:27

None from my area either. Student life was much simpler in my day - people stood outside the union with petitions to bring down the price of cider and black to 50p, and they got their responses that way.

Well that's decided my first pint in the pub today. Standby.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 02/05/2025 15:25

Ffs. Leave other people alone.

TheOtherRaven · 02/05/2025 15:29

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 14:47

We think removing the protection of the Equality Act for "gender critical beliefs" could better protect trans, non-binary and gender diverse people. It could support organisations to properly protect this marginalised community, whose rights we believe are currently being attacked and politicised.

GREAT.

They do realise that this is impossible under UK law without leaving the ECHR...

... the court they want to appeal the Supreme Court Ruling to?

Don't they?

(Rhetorical Question)

I thought we couldn't repeal the GRA for the same reason of not without leaving the ECHR - which at the time (admittedly five minutes ago) was bad?

I know I'm doing that stupid thing of looking for sense and logic...

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 15:30

MarieDeGournay · 02/05/2025 15:04

Extraordinarily daft. It's like saying - I'm all for Universal Human Rights as long as them 'uns don't get any🙄

You mean like...

... whispers...

...the far right demands?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/05/2025 15:32

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 02/05/2025 15:25

Ffs. Leave other people alone.

What, people who want to take away freedom of conscience from others? Those sorts of people?

RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 15:35

TheOtherRaven · 02/05/2025 15:29

I thought we couldn't repeal the GRA for the same reason of not without leaving the ECHR - which at the time (admittedly five minutes ago) was bad?

I know I'm doing that stupid thing of looking for sense and logic...

We can repeal the GRA - many of the reasons for it no longer exist.
We can put in mitigations for alternative solutions to any remaining issues if we wanted.

We can't ban beliefs though. Because they fall under Human Rights protected under the Human Rights Act and the ECHR. (The Human Rights Act is central to membership of the ECHR).

This is why when the Tories wanted to get rid of the Human Rights Act they hit a problem. It's encoded into our membership of the ECHR, Devolution of NI, Scotland and Wales, and ECHR membership is a pre requisite of EU trade deals.

So good luck with that one.

Absolute roasters the lot of them

SirChenjins · 02/05/2025 15:35

PaintDecisions · 02/05/2025 15:19

Well that's decided my first pint in the pub today. Standby.

Chin chin!

PaintDecisions · 02/05/2025 15:35

Done. Thanks @SirChenjins !

New petition wanting to remove protected beliefs
RedToothBrush · 02/05/2025 15:38

PaintDecisions · 02/05/2025 15:35

Done. Thanks @SirChenjins !

Tory! Far Right. We have proof.

Your choice of Political Cider shows your True Beliefs, Bigot!