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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

America's Cass Report?

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lcakethereforeIam · 01/05/2025 22:59

Found via an Unherd article, I've not read it yet

https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-05/gender-dysphoria-report.pdf

Hope the link works.

https://opa.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/2025-05/gender-dysphoria-report.pdf

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IwantToRetire · 02/05/2025 01:18

I think someone started a thread about this a bit earlier.

But have to say today has been like the craziest day ever for the number of duplicate, triplicate, and quarticate threads on FWR!

If only MNHQ had a way of merging them so that posts weren't lost but joined together.

lcakethereforeIam · 02/05/2025 09:50

Well I definitely missed it 😃

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TangenitalContrivance · 02/05/2025 09:59

your title is way better...

IwantToRetire · 02/05/2025 18:50

I think, hope this is the link to the actual report if anyone has the time to read it.

There is also an executive summary.

https://opa.hhs.gov/gender-dysphoria-report

DuesToTheDirt · 02/05/2025 19:31

Well that's pretty damning.

" the “gender-affirming” model of care includes irreversible endocrine
and surgical interventions on minors with no physical pathology. These interventions carry risk of significant harms including infertility/sterility, sexual dysfunction, impaired bone density accrual, adverse cognitive impacts, cardiovascular disease and metabolic disorders, psychiatric disorders, surgical complications, and regret. Meanwhile, systematic reviews of the evidence have revealed deep uncertainty about the purported benefits of these interventions."

Do we know what impact it is likely to have? Will it inform policy and medical care?

lcakethereforeIam · 02/05/2025 19:45

TangenitalContrivance · 02/05/2025 09:59

your title is way better...

I pretty much pirated it from the Unherd article.

I'm surprised I've not seen more about this. Cass was pretty seismic. Although it was dismissed for bullshit reasons by the folx who couldn't stomach being wrong. Much like the SC decision. Is it receiving much coverage in the States?

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DuesToTheDirt · 02/05/2025 19:52

Well that's what I'm wondering @lcakethereforeIam. Cass was the instigator of a sea change in the UK. Will the US be the same?

InConniptions · 02/05/2025 19:57

This article is relatively reasonable:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/01/health/federal-report-denounces-gender-treatments-for-adolescents.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE8.U-Ey.fXARzcT88xFe&smid=url-share

On the whole, it's being framed as Trump being mean to trans people, and will probably be ignored by the Democrats as a result. It may go down as a lost opportunity to stem the harm to children in blue states.

IwantToRetire · 02/05/2025 20:10

I have seen those who because it is happening during Trump presidency saying it is all a right wing conspiracy, but I assume that work on the Review started some time ago. ie longer than Trump's 100 days.

Also, the criticism I have seen of it, are those saying it is all part of a campaign of conversion therapy inspired by right wing evangalists. Never of course acknowledging that some medical treatment is based on just as fervent a set of beliefs, of those who promote gender reassignment.

UtopiaPlanitia · 21/05/2025 00:05

Excellent article regarding the US HHS report:

https://suedonym.substack.com/p/why-did-we-need-those-reports-at

Here's a few good excerpts:

"The HHS and the Cass Review are the product of independent journalists willing to actually ask questions. Of women who lost their jobs, of gays and lesbians exiled from their communities for taking a stand. They are not the product of anyone who should have stopped this before it started. They are not the product of a bold Fourth Estate or ethics panels, or peer review or liberal politicians. No, those people cheered on the castrations. Instead of thinking for themselves, they ate from the trashcan of ideology.

How on earth did no one in charge question what was happening, until it was too late? One life ruined by this nonsense was more than enough, yet there are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, who will have been permanently and avoidably castrated and live short, painful lives thanks to this monstrous experiment disguised as ‘medicine’.….

....Who did this predominantly damage? Young kids who probably would have grown into healthy gay adults. This was conversion therapy - that's something the Cass and the HHS reports and a lot of politicians will talk around, but never quite acknowledging. The natural biological destination for these kids was to be homosexuals, and god forbid the liberal leaning middle and upper class parents on the coasts who paid a fortune to mutilate their children have a gay child. Oh, the humanity! Quick, cut off his dick before he grows up and shoves it in another man's ass! That's the real evil here!

If the past ten years have proven anything, it's that despite their many protests, the liberal-left in the West hates homosexuals quite passionately, because otherwise they wouldn't have been so proud to cheer this on. What use are gay rights if you can't exercise them? What use is legalizing same sex relations if you had your dick and balls cut off at 17?

This whole scenario is a result of a cascade of willful ignorance, homophobia, and people not questioning what they are told. There was no hidden scandal. There was no cover up. A group of doctors were actively practicing experimental castrative conversion therapy on children, and the vast majority of the chattering classes cheered it on. This experimentation on children was even broadcast as a freak show on The Learning Channel. This was no Andrew Wakefield making up stories. The studies openly admitted they were doing these things on the basis of sexist stereotypes and homophobia, not evidence.….

....Why did the science media, so keen to jump down the throats of antivaxxers, support something that was based on an equally large foundation of pseudoscientific nonsense? How did so many ethics panels think any of this was in any way a good idea? How did the children's hospitals justify mutilating children? How did no mainstream news organization write an extensive investigation on the topic until very recently? Why did it take so long for the government to step in, instead of trying to make it illegal to not mutilate these children? Why did every set of checks and balances completely fail?….

....But this shit should have never have flown in the first place. It required a systemic failure of all the checks and balances we're supposed to trust. The minute a young man died at eighteen from a necrotic vaginoplasty he didn't, and never needed in the original Dutch Protocol study¹, everyone should have packed up and gone home. The media should have called it out. There should have been inquiries and recriminations, a promise to never do this again. Instead, they continued and were cheered on, no matter how many corpses resulted from 'gender affirming surgery’. Their response? Shut up and let the scientician remove your ovaries, young lady, you like trucks and girls just a little too much."

Why Did We Need Those Reports At All?

It was obvious from the start that 'gender affirming care' was barbaric hokum. You didn't need government reports to tell you that.

https://suedonym.substack.com/p/why-did-we-need-those-reports-at

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