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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours

83 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:03

Dawn Butler, what a card, eh? (Give the image a moment to get through the screening - it show's JKR's response, which is perfect, as usual.)

DB has tweeted:
Currently, anyone can call themselves a nurse. There's been some very worrying cases of people impersonating nurses. We must stop it. My Bill will legally protect the title “nurse”, ensuring only Registered Nurses can use it. #ProtectNurse

Read the room!

JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours
OP posts:
BoreOfWhabylon · 27/04/2025 23:01

Nurse sharks are nurses, you bigots!

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2025 23:27

I'm identifying as a beetle AND a nurse for this thread!

JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours
PatsFruitCake · 27/04/2025 23:34

Who the hell is voting for Dawn Butler? I just can't comprehend how people like this are participating in public life. Does she ever talk any sense?

ChompandaGrazia · 28/04/2025 07:29

This reminds me of the nurse who who ran the London marathon in her own nurses uniform that she nurses in while being a nurse but was told that it didn’t count for the record fastest person in a nurses uniform because it wasn’t a wee blue and white dress. You know, like Bernard Bresslaw in a Carry On film.

www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/05/nurse-in-trousers-told-her-london-marathon-record-is-invalid

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 28/04/2025 07:42

SidewaysOtter · 27/04/2025 21:45

Well, I hope you’ve all got your files baked into cakes and Ben Cooper on speed dial because last time Dawn saw a MN thread she didn’t like she called the constabulary on us.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4967923-everyone-scarper-the-rozzers-are-coming

That is truly pathetic! ‘Nasty, vicious, inhumane people’, she’s ludicrous.

MayaPinion · 28/04/2025 07:47

Can I be a nurse if I identify as a nurse? I haven’t had any medical training but I have watched almost every episode of Gray’s Anatomy.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/04/2025 08:02

I don't see why not. I waste spend a lot of time on Sporcle (trivia site) and I have the Sporcle MD badge, which I regard as proof that I am a fully qualified doctor and can prescribe drugs and carry out operations. I have, after all, mastered the ten three-letter body parts to get that badge, and let me tell you, that's no small achievement.

[Nurse! The screens!]

OP posts:
SinnerBoy · 28/04/2025 09:03

LizzieSiddal · Yesterday 20:46

DB really is so incredibly dense. It’s quite scary actually.

Local Neutron Stars Reported to be Jealous!

SinnerBoy · 28/04/2025 09:06

MayaPinion · Today 07:47

Can I be a nurse if I identify as a nurse? I haven’t had any medical training but I have watched almost every episode of Gray’s Anatomy.

You're not quite there yet, but fear not. To be properly accredited, you must also be properly acquainted with every episode of House. 5 Jolly hard questions to answer and you're fully qualified!

aylis · 28/04/2025 09:08

Has anyone found their social media algorithms seem to be HEAVILY promoting Pedro Pascal and David Tennant having a pop at JK? It doesn't matter how many times I click 'not interested' or 'not relevant', I'm being inundated by articles from media sources I've never even heard of.

MoistVonL · 28/04/2025 09:11

What about a nursery nurse, Dawn? What about when I nurse my children?

What about all those doctors who are PhDs, are they running amok offering kidney transplants?

Chersfrozenface · 28/04/2025 09:15

Shamelessly nicked from one of my history buffs' feeds:

Flight attendant: Is there a doctor on the plane?
Me: Yes, but I'm not that kind of …
Flight attendant: The pilots are debating the merits of the terminologies of "the dark ages" vs. "late antiquity" vs. "the early middle ages".
Me: Okay. I’m here.

Shortshriftandlethal · 28/04/2025 09:22

PatsFruitCake · 27/04/2025 23:34

Who the hell is voting for Dawn Butler? I just can't comprehend how people like this are participating in public life. Does she ever talk any sense?

All of this nonsense has really shaken my taken for granted, unquestioned confidence that supposedly educated people in positions of influence or importance ( lawyers, doctors, politicians, scientists, teachers, professors etc) are acatuially intelligent and competent people. Many really aren't! They are jjust fallible, gullible human beings like everyone else.

DawnButlersGayGiraffe · 28/04/2025 09:25

IamAporcupine · 27/04/2025 22:20

Had a (virtual) argument the other day with a woman who was very worried because next time her very butch lesbian friend gets accused of being a transwoman, she will be strip searched by a male police officer 🙄

Oooh I had this exact argument in person last week. It's catching.

MarieDeGournay · 28/04/2025 09:55

Shortshriftandlethal · 28/04/2025 09:22

All of this nonsense has really shaken my taken for granted, unquestioned confidence that supposedly educated people in positions of influence or importance ( lawyers, doctors, politicians, scientists, teachers, professors etc) are acatuially intelligent and competent people. Many really aren't! They are jjust fallible, gullible human beings like everyone else.

Having watched most of the 'butch lesbian' interview with Dawn Butler without knowing who she was, she didn't come across as dense or unintelligent at all.

But as soon as she launched into the story about the butch lesbian being hounded out of women's toilets, my BS detector went into overdrive. There were so many false notes in it - from there being so many butch lesbians around suddenly, to the 'hounding out' of women's toilets, to what really put the tin lid on it for me - the phalanx of straight women having to accompany their butch lesbian friend [they seem to share her, so that's good as the supply is limited] to protect her in the women's toilet..

I wondered what the butch lesbian friend does when she needs to pee but Dawn and the Band of Straight Sisters is not around to run interference for her..?

It was such an unlikely story, and delivered with such touching concern for butch lesbians - the sad face, the quivery voice - that I formed the opinion, which may of course be completely unfair and wrong, not that this person was unintelligent, but that they were disturbingly skilled at making BS up to suit the moment, and delivering it with great 'sincerity'.

Then the caption revealed it was Dawn Butler MP, and I recognised her as the Onlie Begetter of the wonderful 'rozzer' thread.
You can't have too many links to it so here's another😃
Everyone scarper, the rozzers are coming | Mumsnet

HaddyAbrams · 28/04/2025 10:09

Could be outing, but hopefully not.

I used to work in a MH unit, as a support worker. One day I opened the door to let a patient back in. He said "thanks nurse". I told him I'm not a nurse. He said "well you're good enough at your job that I think you should be. You're the best nurse here"
I'm sure the actual qualified nurses were delighted that they'd done all the training and exams when all they needed to do was open the door with a smile Grin

MyLostUsername · 28/04/2025 10:17

MarieDeGournay · 28/04/2025 09:55

Having watched most of the 'butch lesbian' interview with Dawn Butler without knowing who she was, she didn't come across as dense or unintelligent at all.

But as soon as she launched into the story about the butch lesbian being hounded out of women's toilets, my BS detector went into overdrive. There were so many false notes in it - from there being so many butch lesbians around suddenly, to the 'hounding out' of women's toilets, to what really put the tin lid on it for me - the phalanx of straight women having to accompany their butch lesbian friend [they seem to share her, so that's good as the supply is limited] to protect her in the women's toilet..

I wondered what the butch lesbian friend does when she needs to pee but Dawn and the Band of Straight Sisters is not around to run interference for her..?

It was such an unlikely story, and delivered with such touching concern for butch lesbians - the sad face, the quivery voice - that I formed the opinion, which may of course be completely unfair and wrong, not that this person was unintelligent, but that they were disturbingly skilled at making BS up to suit the moment, and delivering it with great 'sincerity'.

Then the caption revealed it was Dawn Butler MP, and I recognised her as the Onlie Begetter of the wonderful 'rozzer' thread.
You can't have too many links to it so here's another😃
Everyone scarper, the rozzers are coming | Mumsnet

What I also dislike about the butch lesbian in distress story is that it clearly comes from a male perspective, as I really do not know many (any?) women (straight or not) who would confuse a butch lesbian with a man?!

soupyspoon · 28/04/2025 10:25

MayaPinion · 28/04/2025 07:47

Can I be a nurse if I identify as a nurse? I haven’t had any medical training but I have watched almost every episode of Gray’s Anatomy.

Amateur

I have the Casualty theme tune as my phone ring tone. I am far more qualified than you.

SidewaysOtter · 28/04/2025 11:35

soupyspoon · 28/04/2025 10:25

Amateur

I have the Casualty theme tune as my phone ring tone. I am far more qualified than you.

Well I used to read “Nancy Nurse” in Twinkle magazine so I see your theme tune and raise you some actual nursing on a teddy bear.

TeaAndCakeMakeThingsBetter · 28/04/2025 11:39

MyLostUsername · 28/04/2025 10:17

What I also dislike about the butch lesbian in distress story is that it clearly comes from a male perspective, as I really do not know many (any?) women (straight or not) who would confuse a butch lesbian with a man?!

But now, happy days, the butch lesbian friend has the right to say no, I am a woman, and therefore can only be strip searched by a biological woman!

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 28/04/2025 11:43

Does that apply to doctors? How do we differentiate between PhD and MBCHB, and those who identify as “Doctor”

do we allow anyone to set up a lab or clinic in their spare room?

I am currently following drglaucomflecken‘s series on TikTok “randomly educating on medical topics until you become a Dr”

couple more and I think I’m there. I reckon I’d make a good nephrologist :salt:

TeaAndCakeMakeThingsBetter · 28/04/2025 11:54

aylis · 28/04/2025 09:08

Has anyone found their social media algorithms seem to be HEAVILY promoting Pedro Pascal and David Tennant having a pop at JK? It doesn't matter how many times I click 'not interested' or 'not relevant', I'm being inundated by articles from media sources I've never even heard of.

Yes! I’ve noticed that too. Thankfully the tide seems to have turned in the comments with people saying that women deserve sex-based rights.

MoistVonL · 28/04/2025 12:30

MyLostUsername · 28/04/2025 10:17

What I also dislike about the butch lesbian in distress story is that it clearly comes from a male perspective, as I really do not know many (any?) women (straight or not) who would confuse a butch lesbian with a man?!

The only butch lesbian I know would tell Dawn Butler to feck off and stop making homophobic remarks. Butch lesbians don’t look anything like actual men. They look like themselves.

MarieDeGournay · 28/04/2025 12:44

MoistVonL · 28/04/2025 12:30

The only butch lesbian I know would tell Dawn Butler to feck off and stop making homophobic remarks. Butch lesbians don’t look anything like actual men. They look like themselves.

I like to think of myself as somewhat butch but for some reason if I describe myself as such my friends start laughing😒...
I suspect I feel differently to how I look, and I 'look like myself'. I don't know if I'd be butch enough to qualify for the Dawn Butler Patrol protecting me in the women's toilets.

But I look sufficiently gender-non-conforming to have been challenged in women's toilets from time to time with 'Excuse me, this is the Ladies '.
A smile and 'It's OK, I'm in the right place' has always sorted that out instantly.
I've never been hounded out or felt threatened.

Having been ignored, isolated and offended by the TRAs for years - told we have to have sex with men who ID as lesbians, told we can't have our own spaces, told we are not welcome at Pride events - it is now annoying as hell to be cynically produced as the star turn in outraged protests against the Supreme Court ruling.

I expect 6 foot transmen and women with PCOS feel similarly used.

IamAporcupine · 28/04/2025 13:17

TeaAndCakeMakeThingsBetter · 28/04/2025 11:39

But now, happy days, the butch lesbian friend has the right to say no, I am a woman, and therefore can only be strip searched by a biological woman!

Well in the argument I had, the straight friend was very concerned because she thought her butch lesbian friend would not be believed by the police and therefore would be strip searched by a male police officer. "That is literally what BTP have said!"
🙄

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