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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours

83 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/04/2025 18:03

Dawn Butler, what a card, eh? (Give the image a moment to get through the screening - it show's JKR's response, which is perfect, as usual.)

DB has tweeted:
Currently, anyone can call themselves a nurse. There's been some very worrying cases of people impersonating nurses. We must stop it. My Bill will legally protect the title “nurse”, ensuring only Registered Nurses can use it. #ProtectNurse

Read the room!

JKR's irony meter has exploded - so will yours
OP posts:
GraduationDay · 27/04/2025 20:22

Scientists have shown that clownfish become actual nurse clownfish at will. Therefore, humans become actual nurse humans at will too. They don’t even need a certificate. It’s just science. Why argue with science?

Silversixpenny · 27/04/2025 20:38

Caaarrrl · 27/04/2025 20:22

I'm a primary school teacher who often suggests a wet paper towel for the children. Surely that makes me a nurse? Not a trans nurse, but a real nurse. I can nurse better than the cis nurses anyway because ... reasons. I've done done this for longer than 2 years.

You are THE nurse with your wet paper towel magic!!

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 20:39

Although it's in other threads, here is this other Dawn Butler gem, again just in case any of you missed it:

DB said the other day on telly that she has a butch lesbian friend who gets hounded out of women's toilets and DB and her friends have to actually accompany this poor women to the toilets to protect her!

Sadly, the interviewer didn't ask - 'And is this butch lesbian friend in the room with us now?'

Butch lesbians and 6 foot bearded transmen are this year's Spring/Summer must-have accessories, apparently.

I'm concerned, because I don't think there are enough of them to go around all the politicians and celebrities who want them as friends so they can talk in quivering voices about their suffering at the hands of aggressive straight women in toilets and transphobes at the UK Supreme Court.😒

LizzieSiddal · 27/04/2025 20:46

DB really is so incredibly dense. It’s quite scary actually.

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 20:47

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:23

but what if they identify as nurses??

surely dawn doesn’t want to gate keep who can be a nurse?

what if they have been living as a nurse for 2 years?

I believe science has moved on and you no longer need to have trained as a nurse to be a nurse! What about internurses???

There are days on which the only thing that keeps me from exploding from the sense of sheer injustice and knuckle-dragging stupidity are posts like this which laugh me out of my despair!

Cheers.

I'm off to finish the last of the Creme Speggs to cheer myself up.

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 20:48

Incidentally, I think it's now beyond doubt that Dawn Butler is secretly one of us.

She jumped the shark on this one, I fear.

CarefulN0w · 27/04/2025 20:48

I’m wholeheartedly behind protecting the title of nurse. I just wish it wasn’t being championed by DB. But I think we can all agree that people shouldn’t be allowed to pretend to be something they are not, whether it’s down to a lack of qualifications or the wrong chromosomes.

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 20:50

CarefulN0w · 27/04/2025 20:48

I’m wholeheartedly behind protecting the title of nurse. I just wish it wasn’t being championed by DB. But I think we can all agree that people shouldn’t be allowed to pretend to be something they are not, whether it’s down to a lack of qualifications or the wrong chromosomes.

I FOUND ONE! BURN HER!

soupyspoon · 27/04/2025 20:53

Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/04/2025 18:23

but what if they identify as nurses??

surely dawn doesn’t want to gate keep who can be a nurse?

what if they have been living as a nurse for 2 years?

I believe science has moved on and you no longer need to have trained as a nurse to be a nurse! What about internurses???

These people successfully pass as nurses dont they. Dressing up and looking like a nurse to all but the most nursephobic.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 27/04/2025 21:17

Well I’m astonished I tell you, who would have thought that DB would turn out to be nursephobic?! For all of us who have identified as a nurse at various times in our lives this is just unacceptable and totally bigoted. I’m fumin.

ThePoshUns · 27/04/2025 21:21

Is she a nurf?

Fingernailbiter · 27/04/2025 21:22

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 20:39

Although it's in other threads, here is this other Dawn Butler gem, again just in case any of you missed it:

DB said the other day on telly that she has a butch lesbian friend who gets hounded out of women's toilets and DB and her friends have to actually accompany this poor women to the toilets to protect her!

Sadly, the interviewer didn't ask - 'And is this butch lesbian friend in the room with us now?'

Butch lesbians and 6 foot bearded transmen are this year's Spring/Summer must-have accessories, apparently.

I'm concerned, because I don't think there are enough of them to go around all the politicians and celebrities who want them as friends so they can talk in quivering voices about their suffering at the hands of aggressive straight women in toilets and transphobes at the UK Supreme Court.😒

Perhaps someone could set up an agency to hire them out?

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 21:27

Fingernailbiter · 27/04/2025 21:22

Perhaps someone could set up an agency to hire them out?

Funny you should mention that - I suggested it on another thread - hang on, I'll see if I can find it...😀

CarefulN0w · 27/04/2025 21:32

soupyspoon · 27/04/2025 20:53

These people successfully pass as nurses dont they. Dressing up and looking like a nurse to all but the most nursephobic.

So I know this is a lighthearted thread but for a bit of context, although Doctor and Dentist are protected titles, Nurse isn’t. Meaning Healthcare Assistants and other unqualified people can call themselves nurses, and be referred to as nurses by others.

It is important not to mislead patients and the public about the qualifications of people treating them. Especially when staff budgets are tight. So it’s a serious and important campaign and on this particular issue I am grateful that DB raised it in the HOC and wish other politicians would support her. And yes.. I obviously wish DB could recognise the irony of her position.

Back to the tone of the thread, why do we think the historically male healthcare job titles are protected while nurse isn’t?

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 21:32

Found it!

MarieDeGournay · 25/04/2025 10:19
And don't forget Dawn Butler's 'butch lesbian friend' who has to be protected by DB and a phalanx of her straight friends because she [the butch lesbian] gets 'hounded out' of the women's toilet.
Some butch lesbians are challenged in the women's toilets 'Oi this is the Ladies!' - I've been challenged like that myself on occasions - but I've never heard of any lesbian being 'hounded out', it usually becomes obvious to the other women present that it's just a woman who looks a bit different from them, no hounding out needed.
I wonder is there an agency somewhere,
'Butch Lesbians and Hulking Six-Foot Fully Bearded Transmen available NOW for your carefully staged event!'
because suddenly there seem to be an awful lot of very butch lesbians and very tall transmen, and they all seem to have a lot of friends in high places who can't stop talking about them in the media.
Odd, that...🤔

SidewaysOtter · 27/04/2025 21:45

Well, I hope you’ve all got your files baked into cakes and Ben Cooper on speed dial because last time Dawn saw a MN thread she didn’t like she called the constabulary on us.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4967923-everyone-scarper-the-rozzers-are-coming

unsync · 27/04/2025 21:59

Just read her FB post about it. The irony indeed!

"My Bill enhances patient safety, protects public trust and ... " because you know what else does that? Single sex wards. 🙄

We really need better MPs if this is the calibre. How do they not see it?

IamAporcupine · 27/04/2025 22:15

LizzieSiddal · 27/04/2025 20:46

DB really is so incredibly dense. It’s quite scary actually.

Edited

At first I thought her post was sarcastic, but obviously not 🤪

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 22:19

SidewaysOtter · 27/04/2025 21:45

Well, I hope you’ve all got your files baked into cakes and Ben Cooper on speed dial because last time Dawn saw a MN thread she didn’t like she called the constabulary on us.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4967923-everyone-scarper-the-rozzers-are-coming

But aren't we on The Right Side Of History this time?

I'm confused.

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US? WE'RE TRYING SO HARD!

IamAporcupine · 27/04/2025 22:20

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 21:32

Found it!

MarieDeGournay · 25/04/2025 10:19
And don't forget Dawn Butler's 'butch lesbian friend' who has to be protected by DB and a phalanx of her straight friends because she [the butch lesbian] gets 'hounded out' of the women's toilet.
Some butch lesbians are challenged in the women's toilets 'Oi this is the Ladies!' - I've been challenged like that myself on occasions - but I've never heard of any lesbian being 'hounded out', it usually becomes obvious to the other women present that it's just a woman who looks a bit different from them, no hounding out needed.
I wonder is there an agency somewhere,
'Butch Lesbians and Hulking Six-Foot Fully Bearded Transmen available NOW for your carefully staged event!'
because suddenly there seem to be an awful lot of very butch lesbians and very tall transmen, and they all seem to have a lot of friends in high places who can't stop talking about them in the media.
Odd, that...🤔

Had a (virtual) argument the other day with a woman who was very worried because next time her very butch lesbian friend gets accused of being a transwoman, she will be strip searched by a male police officer 🙄

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2025 22:21

IamAporcupine · 27/04/2025 22:20

Had a (virtual) argument the other day with a woman who was very worried because next time her very butch lesbian friend gets accused of being a transwoman, she will be strip searched by a male police officer 🙄

Bloody Nora.

Whooowhooohoo · 27/04/2025 22:39

CarefulN0w · 27/04/2025 21:32

So I know this is a lighthearted thread but for a bit of context, although Doctor and Dentist are protected titles, Nurse isn’t. Meaning Healthcare Assistants and other unqualified people can call themselves nurses, and be referred to as nurses by others.

It is important not to mislead patients and the public about the qualifications of people treating them. Especially when staff budgets are tight. So it’s a serious and important campaign and on this particular issue I am grateful that DB raised it in the HOC and wish other politicians would support her. And yes.. I obviously wish DB could recognise the irony of her position.

Back to the tone of the thread, why do we think the historically male healthcare job titles are protected while nurse isn’t?

Is it a hate crime to ask a Person if they are a nurse and show certificates?

Fingernailbiter · 27/04/2025 22:40

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2025 21:32

Found it!

MarieDeGournay · 25/04/2025 10:19
And don't forget Dawn Butler's 'butch lesbian friend' who has to be protected by DB and a phalanx of her straight friends because she [the butch lesbian] gets 'hounded out' of the women's toilet.
Some butch lesbians are challenged in the women's toilets 'Oi this is the Ladies!' - I've been challenged like that myself on occasions - but I've never heard of any lesbian being 'hounded out', it usually becomes obvious to the other women present that it's just a woman who looks a bit different from them, no hounding out needed.
I wonder is there an agency somewhere,
'Butch Lesbians and Hulking Six-Foot Fully Bearded Transmen available NOW for your carefully staged event!'
because suddenly there seem to be an awful lot of very butch lesbians and very tall transmen, and they all seem to have a lot of friends in high places who can't stop talking about them in the media.
Odd, that...🤔

Excellent!

BunfightBetty · 27/04/2025 22:51

AngelinaFibres · 27/04/2025 19:08

What if they feel they were born with a 'nurses brain'.

What if they feel they are a nurse.Surely they must be allowed to be true to that true self.
Oh will no one listen to the pretend ( trans if you will) nurses.

What if their inner essence is ‘nurse’? Instead of the farm labourer, lollipop man, bus driver or accountant occupation they’ve so cruelly been saddled with?

Maybe we could get Layla Moran on speed dial to turn up at the hospital and stare into their souls to see if have nurse souls?

SidewaysOtter · 27/04/2025 22:57

What if their pronouns are nurse/nurseself?

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