Wes Streeting on the nhs.

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From the Times;
Transgender patients could be treated in private rooms in NHS hospitals to protect their “rights and dignities”, Wes Streeting has said.

The health secretary said NHS guidance on same-sex wards is being reviewed in light of the Supreme Court ruling that a woman is defined by biological sex under equalities law

Asked about his previous comments that “trans women are women — get over it”, he said: “I’ve addressed this previously and I don’t mind kind of saying, ‘look, you know, I don’t think that was the right thing to say’.

And actually, I wish I’d listened much earlier. I don’t think we, to be honest, given some of the rough discourse we’ve had on these issues in recent years, I don’t think we lose anything by having a bit of humility to say, ‘actually, I wish we’d listened’.”

https://www.thetimes.com/article/3446833b-e40b-40b8-8168-d49e277ae75a?shareToken=0355c6bdd9c0aaf388bc5b8992a65575

there’s a big problem treating Trans Identified Men as special and giving them their own rooom. I heard a nurse speaking once, LWS i think, she was saying how TIMs were given own room when paintings as extreme risk of infection need them but TiMs were given priority, absolutely shocking, but you know, they are so very SPECIAL

Obviously nobody should experience actual discrimination as an NHS patient. Nobody should receive worse treatment because of who they are; unfortunately this actually does happen but to black people and women, not to trans people as a cohort.

After that it's just identity right? And who actually feels as though they keep their identity intact when they are a hospital in-patient? I certainly didn't, giving birth or having an abortion. You just become part of a conveyor belt. Anyone who's had a relative in hospital long term will have seen the degree to which they become institutionalised by the system, despite the nurses being usually lovely.

Much like body hair, small breasts, HRT supply issues, the sheer expense of female grooming.... These things that many women cope quietly with are painted as tragic when a man has to endure them.

You can't steamroll a right which never existed.

As much as no woman wants to cause distress to any poor souls. That poor soul's distress does not entitle them to any beds in the female wards (honestly not even the private rooms. Everyone wants one of those. Why should a woman be denied it for a man on a female ward! I'm so over the polite compromises)

Stop trying to police our thinking. Saying we can't state a reality is beyond politically correct speech. We can't say what we see? A transwoman on a female ward is male and in a nightie. It's the reality. There's nothing more humane than seeing what's in front of you.

Everyone here has a man in their life who they think is nice and safe too. No special males in with the women please.