Why haven’t the TRAs with violent signs been arrested?

[CrazyOldMe]

At yesterday’s protests, there were several signs calling for violence towards “TERFs” and the like.

Have these people been arrested, do we know?

If not, why not? The likes of Lucy Connolly got more than two years in prison for a tweet advocating for violence. We have also seen several arrests over signs at the Palestine/ Israel marches.

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When you look at how de-transistioners have been treated, its not hard to see why a vulnerable person wouldn't stick their head above the parapet and face the resulting abuse from the "community" that you have been in.

I don’t think she was referring to detransitioners?

I know that she was referring to the 'we just want to live our own lives' trans people. I am saying that the de-transistioners have been treated badly and exposed to violence/death threats from the trans "community" so its not hard to see why they are not vocal against the TRAs and their "community".

I think you make a very good point.

I could say the same about some users from twitter and kiwifarms who do more than hold up signs with crayon writing on them.

No mention of threats to women

I wasn't of course referring to de-transitioners and others who have received abuse from their own community.
But there are a fair few prominent 'celebrity' trans. Ella and Shane from UK reality TV shows. Eddie Izzard could have spoken out.

Apart from.Buck Angel, Blair White and the 'pissed off tranny' who aren't from the UK (who have also been shunned by the community) I'm struggling to think of many others.

1. [citation needed]
2. That whataboutery is irrelevant to a thread about a protest in London that the police were present at and has been documented with photographs and video footage as involving both threats to named individuals and criminal damage. Not just hurty words on the internet.

I wouldn’t expect anything of the sort from Izzard. He’s probably loving the commotion.

Maybe stopping violence against women, or doesn’t that matter?

Good luck for that

for someone who apparently hates kiwi farms christ in on there a lot!

Erm, unless I'm missing your (not very clear) point, the Met wouldn't have anything to gain - they'd just be doing their fucking job. Because, you know, inciting violence is a criminal offence last time I checked.

there were quite a few that have spoken out about how the transistioned and how the "community" turned against them.
Chloe Cole was one. I can't remember many of the others but it was around the time of travistock being closed down.
there is also the offensive tranny who is danish.

"hurty words on the internet"

So how do "hurty words" online differ from "hurty words" written with crayons on cardboard signs?

Sorry that's who I meant. The offensive tranny (not pissed off)..yes there are lots who have been shunned. I meant more those who are still active parts of the community. Few if any of them have previously spoke out against the violence.
You can support your community while also condemning violence towards 'terfs'. I wouldn't tolerate violent signs about trans at a WRN meet but it doesn't seem to work the other way

On the plus side, if the Met have to go through all the CCTV to look for these vandals they might see any violent signs.

I'm sceptical, from my own experience, and because the Met is an institutionally misogynistic organisation.

I agree, but then the trans lobby in its current form has always advocated violence, and in several cases acted upon it.

And often those that are not violent are very aggressive.

One thing that worries me greatly about the TRAs is how young some of them are. (university age)

There's a difference, isn't there, between words that instruct the reader to kill someone

And

Words that the reader doesn't like (and therefore deems hurty, because they're so fucking fragile).

Most children can appreciate this difference.

Most TRAs cannot, it seems.

The degree of hurt caused is not how the law decides what is allowable to say. There are laws prohibiting incitement to violence.

There is no law, nor right, that says we should all be free from offence. Or even hurt feelings.

I’ve seen several non-famous TM on tiktok speaking out about this and being clear that they agree with the ruling.
I’ve also seen loads more posts talking about the protests from people who have never discussed any of this before, so there’s progress being made.

TRAs are going mad about it and doubling down on their lies about how harmless TW are (“you could put me, a cis (🤮) woman in a room with 1000 TW and I’d be safer than being in a room with 1 cis (🤮) man” kind of stuff). It’s sickening, but real people are seeing this more than ever before.

(Little pukey faces are my own reaction to the C word!)

Oh it's you. Of course you'd downplay death threats against women...

Yes! And not just the police. Why has this insanity gone so far? I cannot understand it. I have friends who don’t even begin to believe trans women are women, sbd are happy to say it in private, but they insist J K Rowling has ‘gone too far’ because she has said publicly that India Willoughby is a man. I can sort of get my head around this; it’s basically just wanting not to get attacked and instinctively obeying perceived group rules. But the number of apparently normal people in professions like psychiatry and law enforcement who actively promote it and show hostility to people who voice opposition to the plainly nuts idea that people can change sex? I don’t get it. What is that about??

They’re death threats to women, including named public figures, in public, @Christinapple- hope that helps.

The presence of sworn police officers who saw the threats and who had written them, yet made no arrests. It was an open goal for the Met to arrest those men in flagrente delicto. Compare and contrast Police Scotland having to identify and track down a woman to arrest her for posting pictures of ribbons that had neither words nor symbols inscribed on them.

I don't recall KiwiFarms posters ever threatening anyone. Saying mean things about their sanity perhaps, but not threatening them. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.