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Scottish Greens being sexist again

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fromorbit · 12/04/2025 11:38

With Sparkles no longer a member other male Scottish Greens have had to step up to continue their terrible reputation. They are doing their bit.

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier and said trans rapist Isla Bryson was a woman
Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

There is hope the Scottish Greens might plunge into civil war after their conference. Patrick Harvie is standing down as leader but Slater is standing again and there is opposition over her elitist behaviour.
https://archive.is/ESYZg

Scottish Greens council candidate claimed JK Rowling was a Holocaust denier

Exclusive: Eryn Browning has been chosen by the Scottish Greens to contest a by-election in Clydebank Waterfront but offensive historic posts have resurfaced.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-greens-council-candidate-claimed-35039831?int_source=nba

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WaterThyme · 02/04/2026 22:34

Wading in to object to Ingerson’s ousting is Emma Cuthbertson, a transgender woman and former SNP women's officer according to The National in 2020

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18287552.snp-activists-quit-party-gender-recognition-act-reform-row/

Cuthbertson was co-lead of the Rainbow Greens with Ingerson but has just resigned from both that and the Green Party in protest against the treatment of Ingerson.

In the Herald Cuthbertson is quoted as saying “I am with immediate effect resigning my position as Co-Convenor of the Rainbow Greens and leaving the Scottish Green Party.”
“Having watched for many months now cishet women’s ‘tears’ being used to weaponise the complaints process to vilify and smear queer people within this party so that certain people can remain in positions of power has tested my patience to the limit and beyond."

www.heraldscotland.com/news/25991018.leader-greens-lgbtq-wing-quits-maggie-chapman-complaint/

Is Cuthbertson accusing Maggie Chapman of “cishet women’s ‘tears’”? I am baffled.

SNP activists quit party over Gender Recognition Act reform row

TWO SNP activists have quit the party, citing the row over Gender Recognition Act as their reason for leaving.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18287552.snp-activists-quit-party-gender-recognition-act-reform-row/

guinnessguzzler · 02/04/2026 23:13

It's quite something watching this all play out.

ArabellaScott · 03/04/2026 06:42

😂

ArabellaScott · 03/04/2026 06:44

This Emma Cuthbertson?

The one that did that speech?

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/b/former-snp-official-calls-for-inquiry-into-partys-handling-of-transphobic-behaviour

greengagejamandcrumpets · 03/04/2026 06:47

WarriorN · 12/04/2025 11:45

Full length photo of the individual in skin tight leather trousers (or vegan alt. Which is probably plastic.)

https://x.com/iangee2023/status/1910759246838260112?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Too early in the morning for that 😮

Igneococcus · 03/04/2026 06:53

And this bunch of narcissistic wankers will almost certainly be in some sort of government in Scotland come May, it's utterly depressing.

greengagejamandcrumpets · 03/04/2026 09:55

greengagejamandcrumpets · 03/04/2026 06:47

Too early in the morning for that 😮

I'm still recovering from seeing Isla Bryson's "lady cock" in pink tights, it's enough to put you off chipolatas for good 😮

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-rapist-isla-bryson-full-29332689

Hoardasurass · 03/04/2026 10:15

Igneococcus · 03/04/2026 06:58

Never heard about Independent Green Voice before but Gillian Mackay thinks they are "undermining public confidence in the ballot":

https://www.thetimes.com/article/2255b996-5c45-4801-b611-adccfdab9f98?shareToken=9933a6dad7903c39d32cbfff71089141&ver=article

Talk about sour grapes. The two logos are completely different and you'd have to be pretty dim to mix them up.
This article is the 1st I've heard about this group that's been around since 2003 apparently and im not sure i like the sound of them, but the fact that the greens think that their voters cant tell the difference between them on the ballot paper says a lot about what the greens think of their voters

Scottish Greens being sexist again
NasturtiumsAreUnderrated · 03/04/2026 10:46

@Hoardasurass The Electoral Commission, which maintains the British register of political parties, clearly agreed with you. It can - and does- refuse to register party names that it thinks will confuse or mislead of the electorate. The SGP could have objected to Independent Green Voice's application to register that name.

fromorbit · 03/04/2026 12:38

WaterThyme · 02/04/2026 22:34

Wading in to object to Ingerson’s ousting is Emma Cuthbertson, a transgender woman and former SNP women's officer according to The National in 2020

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18287552.snp-activists-quit-party-gender-recognition-act-reform-row/

Cuthbertson was co-lead of the Rainbow Greens with Ingerson but has just resigned from both that and the Green Party in protest against the treatment of Ingerson.

In the Herald Cuthbertson is quoted as saying “I am with immediate effect resigning my position as Co-Convenor of the Rainbow Greens and leaving the Scottish Green Party.”
“Having watched for many months now cishet women’s ‘tears’ being used to weaponise the complaints process to vilify and smear queer people within this party so that certain people can remain in positions of power has tested my patience to the limit and beyond."

www.heraldscotland.com/news/25991018.leader-greens-lgbtq-wing-quits-maggie-chapman-complaint/

Is Cuthbertson accusing Maggie Chapman of “cishet women’s ‘tears’”? I am baffled.

“Having watched for many months now cishet women’s ‘tears’ being used to weaponise the complaints process to vilify and smear queer people within this party so that certain people can remain in positions of power has tested my patience to the limit and beyond."

This is some interesting powerplay stuff. Remember when a bunch of trans types left the Scottish Greens recently to go to Your Party.

The attacks on Patrick Harvie.

The recent NDP in Canada drama in another thread

LGBTQ+ leftist identity politics which is a crabs in a bucket mentality.

How did Chapman sail through when she has no card to play except being a woman? In these type of politics everyone gets cards but some people use them better.

Always check people's backgrounds. The Chapman family had an expat background and she attend Dominican Convent in Harare – Zimbabwe’s oldest school. Her family wasn't massively rich, but going to an elite all girls school like that is going to potentially give you a powerful sense of self confidence and an ability to navigate social hierarchies, not like a crab but like a eel. You are way more likely to get to the top, because that stuff makes sense you grew up in the bucket. Look how she has the effortless self confidence to slag off the Supreme Court.

Chapman could have joined the Tories, Labour, SNP it doesn't matter. She would weaponise anything she has to get higher and feel an endless sense of self confidence in doing so.

Both men and women with that kind of background can do well. Women though are on average more likely to be particularly good at a certain type of social advancement, because lets face it there is more aggressive internal politics amongst girls than boys, socially we are different. We have to recognise this, because it is key issue in getting women's equal rights, the biggest obstacles are often other women. Individual women will happily get themselves up social ladders while screwing over other women further down and not even recognise they have done it. The most effective supporters of men in dresses are actual women, we all know this, and they use the type of social shaming stuff that is incredibly effective in internal women dynamics. You have to be nice etc.

The problem for "Emma" Cuthbertson is like a lot of trans women they have a sense of ruthless male entitlement and competition which gets them so far, but sooner or later they are going to run into actual political women who will effortlessly out manoeuvre them and they then just have to throw a tantrum because they don't know how to deal with it. Sturgeon used Cuthbertson like Chapman used Cuthbertson as a prop to get social/political advantage. They can call it transphobic, but the reality is both Chapman and Sturgeon are,though awful people, are obviously effective female politicians in the basics, getting and achieving power and crushing others trying to take it away from you.

It almost makes you feel sorry for Cuthbertson, on onside the awful Terfs womening all over the place successfully on the other Chapman doing the same. Why is Cuthbertson so upset? Because a women outmanoeuvred a man politically. That is what it boils down to. Any successful women will recognise men going a bit crazy when they see that happening.

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Igneococcus · 03/04/2026 13:38

Hoardasurass · 03/04/2026 10:15

Talk about sour grapes. The two logos are completely different and you'd have to be pretty dim to mix them up.
This article is the 1st I've heard about this group that's been around since 2003 apparently and im not sure i like the sound of them, but the fact that the greens think that their voters cant tell the difference between them on the ballot paper says a lot about what the greens think of their voters

I hadn't heard about them until this article either. I so wish that there were a proper environmental party in the UK or Scotland but IGV isn't it when I look into them. In the article it says they are standing a candidate in all regions but I can't see one in A&B. There are two independents although one of them has now joined Restore UK.

SternJoyousBee · 03/04/2026 14:06

ArabellaScott · 03/04/2026 11:21

https://www.amelia.scot/court

Amelia Connolly. This individual certainly is vulnerable. And no doubt marginalised. His family or legal counsel should step in.

You are far nicer than me @ArabellaScott because I don’t think he is half as vulnerable as he is making out. From the Tattle thread he gets lots of support from his mother despite his claims to the contrary.

And if he truly had a mental age if 12 he should be immediately banned from driving, OF and TikTok.

DuesToTheDirt · 03/04/2026 14:23

Igneococcus · 03/04/2026 13:38

I hadn't heard about them until this article either. I so wish that there were a proper environmental party in the UK or Scotland but IGV isn't it when I look into them. In the article it says they are standing a candidate in all regions but I can't see one in A&B. There are two independents although one of them has now joined Restore UK.

This has prompted me to look at the latest list for who is standing in my area. 18 parties, many of whom I've never heard of, and 4 independent candidates!

fromorbit · 03/04/2026 15:39

Anyone with a vote in Scotland remember the Scottish Greens rely on the list vote where only a few hundred votes can change the result. That is why the Scottish Greens are paranoid about Independent Greens.

Take a look to see who is best based to keep them down. Scottish Labour might be a solid choice as it looks like they are in trouble in the continency votes which means they might gain on the list. If you are open to voting right look to see whether Tories or Reform are best placed. Survey all the candidates to see who knows what a women is. Just doing that raises the issue.

More importantly right now is the time to spread the word more widely about the Scottish Greens being awful. Most people don't know their long tradition of protecting sex pests and focusing on identity over the environment, the poor, etc. How they destroyed a major recycling scheme. Go to hustings, post on FB, forums do everything you can over the next month.

SG strategy is to become powerbrokers in Holyrood again. If they do that they will push for a bunch of awful antiwoman measures.

A solid campaign against them might deny them a few list seats.

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DuesToTheDirt · 03/04/2026 17:55

I need to figure out my voting. I seem to remember that if you really hate a party, it is better to put them last rather than not include them at all in your vote, is that right?

ArabellaScott · 03/04/2026 19:43

SternJoyousBee · 03/04/2026 14:06

You are far nicer than me @ArabellaScott because I don’t think he is half as vulnerable as he is making out. From the Tattle thread he gets lots of support from his mother despite his claims to the contrary.

And if he truly had a mental age if 12 he should be immediately banned from driving, OF and TikTok.

I'm not really being hugely nice, I just think its important to note over and over that 'vulnerable and marginalised' does not necessarily equate to harmless.

This line about some men being vulnerable and marginalised has been used relentlessly to soften women up and get them.to relinquish boundaries and self preservation, it seems imperative that we try to re establish critical.thinking here.

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ArabellaScott · 03/04/2026 19:56

DuesToTheDirt · 03/04/2026 17:55

I need to figure out my voting. I seem to remember that if you really hate a party, it is better to put them last rather than not include them at all in your vote, is that right?

Are you thinking of STV - single transferable vote - rather than AMS -additional member system? Former for councils ranks candidates in a list. Latter is one each for constituency and region. Just one vote for each.

Scottish Greens being sexist again
ArabellaScott · 03/04/2026 19:57

I hope that makes sense!

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fromorbit · 04/04/2026 04:17

fromorbit · 04/04/2026 04:14

Scottish Greens candidate backs down from ‘abolish jails’ stance
Kate Nevens repeatedly supported abolishing prisons, but a party intervention after The

https://www.thetimes.com/article/f5ecc288-49bf-4065-90bd-87e4f76511f1?shareToken=904654fe9f849c25b862540759a39c41

Massive scandal triggered by good Times reporting.

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Lalgarh · 04/04/2026 07:55

Prison abolition is another import from American Discourse. Because of racial inequalities in the US prison system they are seen to perpetuate slavery and so abolition means campaigners get to free slaves all over again.

It's also the sort of thing ex corbynite 2010s hipsters around Novara (Owen Jones, Ash Sarkar, Aaron Bastani) espoused. When there was a complaint about a sexual assault on a young woman by one of their acquaintances, she was accused of being "carceral" ( ie a hanger and flogging type) because she wanted "accountability". It's a term as reviled as Tory, or TERFy in those circles.

I think she was also a prison abolition type, certainly anti cop, so I don't think she ever formally reported it

SionnachRuadh · 04/04/2026 11:09

Lalgarh · 04/04/2026 07:55

Prison abolition is another import from American Discourse. Because of racial inequalities in the US prison system they are seen to perpetuate slavery and so abolition means campaigners get to free slaves all over again.

It's also the sort of thing ex corbynite 2010s hipsters around Novara (Owen Jones, Ash Sarkar, Aaron Bastani) espoused. When there was a complaint about a sexual assault on a young woman by one of their acquaintances, she was accused of being "carceral" ( ie a hanger and flogging type) because she wanted "accountability". It's a term as reviled as Tory, or TERFy in those circles.

I think she was also a prison abolition type, certainly anti cop, so I don't think she ever formally reported it

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The American discourse on prisons is a bit like the UK discourse on immigration. Most normie Brits think legal immigration is incredibly low and the vast majority of immigration is illegal. This is so removed from the real situation that, whether you're liberal or restrictionist on immigration, it makes it harder to talk about workable policy.

In the same way, American lefties (and I know quite a few) seem to think that about 95% of prison inmates are non-violent weed smokers or fine defaulters who have been sent there arbitrarily by racist judges. They never seem to realise that releasing the peaceful potheads would make virtually no impact on the prison population, and most of the people locked up are violent criminals who are there for a reason.

There's a conversation to be had about racial disparities, but unfortunately the conversation that actually happens is a really stupid one.

It's even more stupid when Brits import American political arguments that might not even make sense in America and just assume they transfer to Britain. These are the sort of Brits who like to say "folks" and "y'all" on Reddit.