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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

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IwantToRetire · 25/03/2025 22:38

The Trump administration is planning to freeze tens of millions of dollars in federal grants to organizations providing family planning and other reproductive health services, as it reviews whether the funds violate the president’s order to cease all government-backed diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) work.

A Health and Human Services spokesperson told The Wall Street Journal, which reported on the plan, that the department was reviewing grants to make sure they complied with the crackdown on DEI.

The freeze to the Title X program could impact as much as $120 million worth of grants to a network of roughly 4,000 clinics providing free and discounted pregnancy testing, contraception, sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment, and evaluations and testing for infertility.

Planned Parenthood, whose affiliates could lose roughly $20 million if the paused grants are ultimately cut, reacted with alarm.

“The Trump-Vance-Musk administration wants to shut down Planned Parenthood health centers by any means necessary, and they’ll end people’s access to birth control, cancer screenings, STI testing and treatment, and more to do it,” Planned Parenthood Federation of America CEO Alex McGill Johnson told the newspaper.

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

Trump team to stop family-planning funding as it reviews whether it’s being used for DEI programs

Change could impact thousands of clinics providing contraception and sexually transmitted infection testing

https://www.aol.co.uk/trump-team-stop-family-planning-211853228.html

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ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 06:35

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 01:17

@MrsOvertonsWindow

What an odd thing to find "grotesque". I understand it's uncomfortable / embarrassing to find that an opinion you've been parroting in good faith - that we shouldn't call children "children" for some odd reason - has roots in predatory behaviour / lifestyles

Yes, I do find it grotesque when it is aimed at me with the goal of shocking me - and it did - and shutting me down. Particularly as it came straight after a post accusing me directly of being a paedophile (that one was reported and deleted). It was used a tactic and I’ve encountered it before here - nowhere else. What does that tell you?

BTW - I’m not in the habit of “parroting” opinions. Nor am I an activist of any type. I’m not LBGTQI - I’m a mother of two, a feminist, slightly left of centre in my politics, and part-time academic. Your use of this sort of insult against other women is bizarre and pathetic.

Instead of reporting you - as you chose to copy Eresh’s post out and explain it carefully with helpful links - maybe you should ask for it to be deleted yourself.

What insult?

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 06:36

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/04/2025 00:07

If this thread was about the lack of 'family planning' services in the states, the OP really chose the wrong board.

This thread isn't about the lack of family planning services, it's about the cuts to women's sex based services @illinivich.

as it turns out, people are still complaining that the sex and gender board is used to discuss sex and gender…😳

People are complaining about feminists who centre the sex class, women, and won't sacrifice women's and girls rights to MRA cultural warriors. That which is feminism @RufustheFactuaIReindeer.

If this forum does not centre women, it doesn't belong under Feminism.

Edited

This forum includes all sorts of views. Including yours.

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 06:49

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 06:35

What insult?

Sorry I didn’t make it clear what particular insult l was referring to - the child abuser one.

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 06:58

Cass describes PBs as powerful drugs with serious risks.

The truth is there is fuck all evidence on the effects of PBs used to treat gender incongruence, as noted by NICE, the NHS, Cass, and researchers elsewhere.

Sterilisation is a risk, which is why children considering 'gender affirming care' are counselled on egg or sperm freezing.

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 07:01

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 06:49

Sorry I didn’t make it clear what particular insult l was referring to - the child abuser one.

Sorry, what? Who called whom a child abuser?

TheGentleOpalMember · 05/04/2025 07:45

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 06:26

That’s an extremely biased source - and an interview, not a study.

It's by a doctor who FOUNDED A GENDER CLINIC!!

TheGentleOpalMember · 05/04/2025 07:46

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 06:26

So you’re not, then.

Not what?

Troubledwords · 05/04/2025 07:50

Does anyone know if this, or the USAID cuts affect International PP, which do operate in the UK?

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:09

Troubledwords · 05/04/2025 07:50

Does anyone know if this, or the USAID cuts affect International PP, which do operate in the UK?

The IPPF website search of associated organisations only brings up Brook in the UK, as far as I can see. Not clear how they are associated? Brook's website makes no mention at all of IPPF. At least, I can't find it.

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:16

Brook says sex is a spectrum.

'Sex has historically been understood as just two categories: male and female. But it doesn’t always fit into the two neat categories and many people think of sex instead as being on a spectrum, with people being more or less male or female.'

https://www.brook.org.uk/your-life/difference-between-sex-and-gender/

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:24

'Brook is not asked by schools to teach about BDSM and Kink, but is sometimes required to respond to ad hoc questions about it amongst young people.

Brook teaches…

That people respond in diverse ways to different kinds of touch, sensation, physical, visual and oral stimulation. There is no ‘right’ way to have sex or to be in a relationship – provided it is mutually agreed'

Odd statement. There certainly are right ways to have sex - 'legal' and 'safe' are two things that spring to mind.

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:30

Also find it a bit odd that Brook has a page on abuse that describes six different types of abuse, but not one of them is CSA.

They have CSE, but not CSA. Anyone offer any info on that?

https://www.brook.org.uk/topics/abuse-and-violence/

Young woman with dark hair and round glasses, smiling and looking away

Abuse: Can be physical or sexual but it can also be less obvious

Explore our pages around abuse and topics including types of abuse, sexual harassment, domestic violence, LGBT+ violence and where to get help

https://www.brook.org.uk/topics/abuse-and-violence/

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:33

I guess they're including CSA under CSE, on further reading.

Troubledwords · 05/04/2025 08:35

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:24

'Brook is not asked by schools to teach about BDSM and Kink, but is sometimes required to respond to ad hoc questions about it amongst young people.

Brook teaches…

That people respond in diverse ways to different kinds of touch, sensation, physical, visual and oral stimulation. There is no ‘right’ way to have sex or to be in a relationship – provided it is mutually agreed'

Odd statement. There certainly are right ways to have sex - 'legal' and 'safe' are two things that spring to mind.

So, if I'm reading you right, IPPF give money to Brook, to be in our secondary? schools and then they teach that sex and gender is fluid and there's no right way for people to have sex.

Datun · 05/04/2025 08:35

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 01:46

Here’s just one: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666379122004220

There are plenty more out there. The article above does discuss slightly older participants, but describes the return of spermatogenesis after long-term eostradiol.

Generally, for transmen it isn’t an issue; for transwomen, it sometimes can be. However, it isn’t a blanket NO.

Messin

i'm struggling to understand why you appear so set against the idea that puberty blockers sterilise children.

The recommended age to administer them is at stage two. Menstruation and sperm production doesn't generally start until tanner stage four.

Something ridiculous like 98% of children on puberty blockers go onto cross sex hormones.

If you never start your periods, and can't produce sperm you will be sterile.

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:38

Troubledwords · 05/04/2025 08:35

So, if I'm reading you right, IPPF give money to Brook, to be in our secondary? schools and then they teach that sex and gender is fluid and there's no right way for people to have sex.

Well, like I said, it seems a bit complicated. I'm not quite sure what an 'associated member' means, if IPPF fund Brook. I haven't downloaded accounts and there isn't easily accessed info on Brook's website on how they are funded.

And I've only had a cursory look at what Brook do or how. I assume they used to be the Brook Advisory Service?

Helleofabore · 05/04/2025 08:46

Maybe this will provide clarity on the loss of fertility for males undergoing puberty blocking.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.03.23.586441v1.full

Puberty Blocker and Aging Impact on Testicular Cell States and Function

Varshini Murugesh, Megan Ritting, Salem Salem, Syed Mohammed Musheer Aalam, Joaquin Garcia, Asma J Chattha, Yulian Zhao, David JHF Knapp, Guruprasad Kalthur, Candace F Granberg, Nagarajan Kannan

March 27, 2024.

Abstract

Spermatogonial stem cell (SSC) acquisition of meiotogenetic state during puberty to produce genetically diverse gametes is blocked by drugs collectively referred as ‘puberty blocker’ (PB). Investigating the impact of PB on juvenile SSC state and function is challenging due to limited tissue access and clinical data. Herein, we report largest clinically annotated juvenile testicular biorepository with all children with gender dysphoria on chronic PB treatment highlighting shift in pediatric patient demography in US. At the tissue level, we report mild-to-severe sex gland atrophy in PB treated children. We developed most extensive integrated single-cell RNA dataset to date (>100K single cells; 25 patients), merging both public and novel (52 month PB-treated) datasets, alongside innovative computational approach tailed for germ cells and evaluated the impact of PB and aging on SSC. We report novel constitutional ranges for each testicular cell type across the entire age spectrum, distinct effects of treatments on prepubertal vs adult SSC, presence of spermatogenic epithelial cells exhibiting post-meiotic-state, irrespective of age, puberty status, or PB treatment. Further, we defined distinct effects of PB and aging on testicular cell lineage composition, and SSC meiotogenetic state and function. Using single cell data from prepubertal and young adult, we were able to accurately predict sexual maturity based both on overall cell type proportions, as well as on gene expression patterns within each major cell type. Applying these models to a PB-treated patient that they appeared pre-pubertal across the entire tissue. This combined with the noted gland atrophy and abnormalities from the histology data raise a potential concern regarding the complete ’reversibility’ and reproductive fitness of SSC. The biorepository, data, and research approach presented in this study provide unique opportunity to explore the impact of PB on testicular reproductive health.

and article

archive.is/6tuWP

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:47

Advised welsh govt on 'trans'.

justasking111 · 05/04/2025 08:53

ArabellaScott · 05/04/2025 08:47

Advised welsh govt on 'trans'.

Don't it's caused no end of upset here. The senedd have embraced it 🙈

borntobequiet · 05/04/2025 08:55

Of course people can take puberty blockers and not have them affect fertility. Me, for example, because I’m over 70.
However, if I were 7 years old, it would be a very different story. If 17, not so clear.

As usual, such arguments - that PBs don’t necessarily affect fertility - are the usual mess of disingenuity, lack of evidence and wishful thinking.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/04/2025 08:58

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 01:17

@MrsOvertonsWindow

What an odd thing to find "grotesque". I understand it's uncomfortable / embarrassing to find that an opinion you've been parroting in good faith - that we shouldn't call children "children" for some odd reason - has roots in predatory behaviour / lifestyles

Yes, I do find it grotesque when it is aimed at me with the goal of shocking me - and it did - and shutting me down. Particularly as it came straight after a post accusing me directly of being a paedophile (that one was reported and deleted). It was used a tactic and I’ve encountered it before here - nowhere else. What does that tell you?

BTW - I’m not in the habit of “parroting” opinions. Nor am I an activist of any type. I’m not LBGTQI - I’m a mother of two, a feminist, slightly left of centre in my politics, and part-time academic. Your use of this sort of insult against other women is bizarre and pathetic.

Instead of reporting you - as you chose to copy Eresh’s post out and explain it carefully with helpful links - maybe you should ask for it to be deleted yourself.

Good grief. Why on earth would I report my post quoting Eresh's legitimate and still standing post? It's you who's been all over this thread demanding that posters stop using the world children.

My post above was reflecting that when people get caught up in defending transgenderism, they can end up promoting ideas that are anti social , dangerous to children and undermining of their safeguarding.

I've not accused anyone on this thread of being a transactivist - just pointed out use of transactivist arguments - one of which is that is that there's no distinction between children and adults. When you repeatedly demand that posters stop speaking about children in relation to the damage to their fertility, future relationships and long term physical / mental health, you must expect push back. Few parents will accept these as acceptable outcomes for their children and this is a board of predominantly women and parents.

MessinaBloom · 05/04/2025 09:10

TheGentleOpalMember · 05/04/2025 07:45

It's by a doctor who FOUNDED A GENDER CLINIC!!

She seems a bit controversial. Still, it’s a badly written interview from The Daily Caller.

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