Paris Green's prison adventures continue

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/pre-op-transsexual-killer-moved-out-2928751.amp

'A PRE-OP transsexual killer has been moved out of Scotland’s women-only jail after claims he had sex with other prisoners.
Paris Green was transferred out of Cornton Vale prison after inmates claimed he had fling with other cons.
Green – who used to be known as Peter Laing – was only sent to the prison five weeks ago after being convicted of murder.
But he has now been moved to a special section of Saughton prison in Edinburgh after being confronted with the allegations.
Green was originally told he could spend his minimum 18-year sentence in the women’s prison because he is about to undergo gender realignment surgery on the National Health Service.

But now he will be carefully monitored in Saughton’s special women’s section which has around 100 female inmates.
Prison insiders say Green, 22, had been involved in casual sexual relationships with other convicts at Cornton Vale, near Stirling.
It is understood that prison wardens had to have several talks with Green and his partners to warn them that their behaviour was unacceptable.'

I don't recall a campaign for Paris Green.

Might have been Marie Dean?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2018/01/marie-dean-story-shows-there-s-no-simple-answer-how-we-treat-transgender

There was a campaign for him to be moved to women's prison. It didn't detail the offences he was in for, which included:

' Dean, aged 42 in 2009, was convicted of over 30 offences including voyeurism, aggravated burglary and assaulting police officers. Dean broke into homes, dressed in teenage girls’ underwear, and filmed herself in their bedrooms engaging in what the court reporting coyly called “sex acts”. “Your victims,” said the judge, “undoubtedly regard you as being a dangerous man within the community and the sort of dangerous person that will give them every reason to be careful or worry when things go bump in the night.” (Dean’s 2003 trial for charges related to an indecent video of children ended in a not-guilty verdict.)'

Although actually, it was possibly Tara Hudson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-37837264

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/20/tara-hudson-transgender-prisoner-sues-government

Yes, Tara Hudson.

https://gendercriticalwoman.blog/2019/06/15/cognitive-capture-at-the-guardian-the-marie-dean-case/

I think Laverne Cox also campaigned for a trans prisoner in the US, carefully leaving out their crimes.

When Paris Green’s been mentioned before, iirc the clinic where they planned to take him in Brighton then said they wouldn’t do it. I don’t know if further plans have been made since then. Does anyone else remember this?

Not Paris but his friend easterbroke
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-killer-sophie-eastwood-says-34924651

Yes, Cox campaigned for Luis Morales aka Synthia China Blast.

Once again, the content of Morales' crimes is very, very upsetting, advise caution.

https://www.curvemag.com/blog/transgender/laverne-cox-stirs-controversy/

A good example of how 'vulnerable' does not equate to 'harmless'.

This man is clearly very disturbed. That doesn't mean he should be anywhere near a women's prison.

Is Tara Hudson the bloke who has attacked several young women, including glassing one in her face? Apart from the myriad other reasons not to put him in a women's prison, that alone surely disqualifies him?

Scotland is the gift that just keeps on giving...

🍿 time for the things which just don't happen in scotland and if they do it's not that bad and if it is then she consented to deserves it.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6582524/convicted-murderer-refused-gender-reassignment-surgeon-operation/

I’ve found it here

Thanks Arabella! Definitely that’s the one. A carefully posed photo to appear indistinguishable from a woman, with no mention of his history as a repeat violent offender, or his advertisement offering sexual services as a “shemale” with a “seven inch surprise”.

I love Mumsnet FWR for the extensive understanding and knowledge of our wonderful posters!

Tara was one of 2 fellas that peaked me. It was him and Danielle Muscato so knew exactly who you meant with the 7 inch surprise

Tara Hudson, described by the BBC thus:

'The make-up artist, who has had reconstructive surgery and lived as a woman all her adult life'

The 'reconstructive surgery' is not specified.

Hudson sued the MoJ.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/20/tara-hudson-transgender-prisoner-sues-government

Yes, Tara Hudson. Violent as fuck. Broke the jaw and/or teeth of a barman, if I remember rightly, by nutting him.

Hudson was being interviewed on TV, and absolutely lost his rag, effing and blinding because somebody disagreed that he was in fact a woman, if I remember correctly. It was TV gold.

I remember stopping my car to listen to Jeremy vine interview Tara Hudson. Tara said to Jeremy that Tara shouldn’t be in a male
jail because he was blonde with big boobs and whatever would become of him. Jeremy’s response was unsettling.

I’d had the petition sent round my friends who were in the skeptics. I refused to sign it saying “Tara’s violent and male, what will happen to the women?”

i am no longer friends with the skeptic people.

as an aside, Jeremy’s good in high heels, isn’t he?

My image is under review, it’s a ss of the radio programme, I can’t find a recording.

here’s Jezzer gambolling about in heels in a way I’ve never mastered. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3288863/Video-Jeremy-Vine-struts-stuff-pair-heels-BBC-office.html

I can’t help but think that journalists bear responsibility for the likes of Paris Green being housed with women. He’s been moved several times for sexual activity with inmates. it’s a scandal, incarcerated women can’t remove themselves from his attentions and he’s an extremely dangerous man. I will never understand why Jeremy Vine and the rest of them didn’t just do their fucking job and report the facts.

which is we allowed state sanctioned rape and it’s inhumane

I'm another one who has to admit that I signed the Guardian petition to have Hudson moved to a female prison. I used to absolutely trust the Guardian. More fool me.

Of course years ago we had been led to believe transwomen were all post op - now of course we know that 97% or so have a penis and have no intention of ever being parted from it. Or if they do want it removed then it may be part of a castration fetish.

Well, the emphasis on surgery naturally would have led people to believe he'd had his cock off.

Well surely, the general public are just now coming to the realisation that that isn't the case. The assumption, certainly amongst men, that transwomen have "had it chopped off" is still quite widespread, I think.

Now this would have been lovely to see. Obviously our wonderful network of women were not as efficient back then, or the video would have gone viral.

I haven’t heard anything about Tara since then. I wonder if he detransitioned?

Sorry this is off thread, links to newspaper articles often take you down rabbit holes because they'll have links to similar stories. Thanks for the Sarah Ditum New Statesman article. There was a link on that to a long 'What is Gender' article she wrote in 2016 that would have peaked shot me right to the mountain top had I read it when it was published.

https://archive.ph/teA7X

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2016/05/what-is-gender-anyway

But this(!) that i noticed in the Daily Post

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-prison-officer-suspended-over-34917680?intsource=nba

I obviously don't know if the guy starred in the porno although this seems a little coincidental

But after the video came to light, he told Scottish Prison Service managers that he will be self-identifying as a woman when he returns to work.

The SPS are currently worried about him working with boys and young men. I desperately hope they don't decide the solution is for him to be moved to the female estate.

I saw in one report he was living in Belgium. No idea if that's still the case.

Oh dear it looks like the sps is going to be force to move Paris or defend putting him in a woman's prison in crt

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/row-trans-killer-stays-womens-35032849

He's still fucking there?!