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I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

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IwantToRetire · 18/03/2025 18:51

Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

The latest polling from YouGov shows that women are falling out of love with Labour fast. In the first month of Starmer’s government, only a third (32 per cent) of women said they “disapproved of the Government’s record so far”; by mid-February that figure had more than doubled to 68 per cent.

Part-time and low-income jobs, which are disproportionately held by women, are predicted to be hardest hit by the rise in employers’ NI contributions. In the childcare and social care sectors the impact is expected to be particularly tough, with the effects of those changes being felt primarily by women too. Both sectors are major employers of female labour, and when costs rise or their services are shut down, it is women’s lives that are affected too.

High-net-worth women are also disappointed. The Saltus Wealth Index polls people holding more than £250,000 in investable assets. It revealed that women in this group were slightly more likely than men to have voted Labour in last summer’s election, and that Labour was still the most popular party for wealthy women – but of the 38 per cent who voted Labour in July, 68 per cent now regretted their decision.

From an article in the "i" https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

Can also be read at https://archive.is/zXtxe

I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

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illinivich · 21/03/2025 11:13

Love or hate the rich they are the wealth machines and it all filters down.

If that were true, the rich wouldnt be getting richer and everyone else poorer.

Most of the wealthy invest in land, property and betting on the stock market. That doesn't make the average person any richer. It justs helps land and property become out of the reach for most. And at best, the average property owner rich on paper, but with no way of seeing the money apart from remortgaging or selling.

Governments know this because they are focused on total wealth in the country, and are not reporting on the wealth distributions.

duc748 · 21/03/2025 11:19

Yes, this idea that the rich are somehow 'creating' wealth that will filter down to the rest of us... If you'll believe that...

EasternStandard · 21/03/2025 12:21

The pp has a point though on taxes and driving earners out. If Starmer / Reeves’ plans were good ones we wouldn’t see such high unexpected borrowing and halving of growth projections.

Beowulfa · 21/03/2025 13:26

It just gets easier and easier for Reform to do well at the next election, doesn't it? Alarming times.

I heard Ed Milliband on the radio earlier, and was surprised at just how shit he came across, for someone that senior and experienced in politics. I know the facts about the Heathrow fire may take time to be established, but I'm sure someone in the corporate world would have to sound less vague and waffly.

illinivich · 21/03/2025 13:32

EasternStandard · 21/03/2025 12:21

The pp has a point though on taxes and driving earners out. If Starmer / Reeves’ plans were good ones we wouldn’t see such high unexpected borrowing and halving of growth projections.

Edited

Yes, i agree. Ive heard that millionaires are leaving the UK in higher numbers than anywhere else apart from china. But i dont know if they are business buliders, or the retired moving to the sun. Either way they wont be paying tax and arent spending their cash in the uk.

illinivich · 21/03/2025 13:39

Beowulfa · 21/03/2025 13:26

It just gets easier and easier for Reform to do well at the next election, doesn't it? Alarming times.

I heard Ed Milliband on the radio earlier, and was surprised at just how shit he came across, for someone that senior and experienced in politics. I know the facts about the Heathrow fire may take time to be established, but I'm sure someone in the corporate world would have to sound less vague and waffly.

Unless they attract defectors from the main parties, we could end up with a government of complete unknows. But if they do attract established MP, im not sure what would change?

SionnachRuadh · 21/03/2025 15:05

illinivich · 21/03/2025 13:39

Unless they attract defectors from the main parties, we could end up with a government of complete unknows. But if they do attract established MP, im not sure what would change?

They're being deliberately picky about defectors - they don't want to be a dumping ground for people the established parties have good reason to want rid of.

See also the Rupert Lowe thing - the row itself is a bit murky, but a key element is that Lowe is being backed by the Extremely Online Right, especially Carl Benjamin and his mini-mes, who in Farage's view are the same numbskulls who killed UKIP.

It's more than possible - I'd say it's very likely - that Reform will attract absolute dingbat candidates, as well as rats leaving sinking ships. It's not my place to speak up for Farage or to say I trust his judgment, but his people know that's an issue.

SionnachRuadh · 21/03/2025 15:07

It's a bit worrying though, that the nearest the current government has to an experienced minister is Ed Miliband.

lechiffre55 · 21/03/2025 15:12

SionnachRuadh · 21/03/2025 15:07

It's a bit worrying though, that the nearest the current government has to an experienced minister is Ed Miliband.

A man defeated by a bacon sandwich...
There's no hope for the UK is there?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph

Ed Miliband bacon sandwich photograph - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband_bacon_sandwich_photograph

SionnachRuadh · 21/03/2025 15:21

I mean he could just have said, I'm Jewish, I don't eat bacon.

But he had to make a meal of it (sorry)

Bollindger · 22/03/2025 07:58

Ed stabbed his brother in the back.
Did Labour know how many of us would have voted for his brother?
Then that stone ....
The list goes on..
Now Stammer wants to repeat Blair's trick and send our armed force out to be shot at.... God help us.

illinivich · 22/03/2025 08:43

Not impressed with the dream team of ed and Harriet Harman, then?

EasternStandard · 22/03/2025 09:10

Bollindger · 22/03/2025 07:58

Ed stabbed his brother in the back.
Did Labour know how many of us would have voted for his brother?
Then that stone ....
The list goes on..
Now Stammer wants to repeat Blair's trick and send our armed force out to be shot at.... God help us.

Indeed.

anyolddinosaur · 22/03/2025 10:23

When Ukraine gave up the nuclear weapons Russia gave it security assurance that it would refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum. Russia broke this agreement. It cant be trusted not to break any other agreement.

What do those objecting to British troops being shot us propose should happen to prevent Ukraine being destroyed - give them back nuclear weapons?

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/03/2025 10:51

The Government don't give you anything. They borrow money from the Bond Markets who decide if you have a favourable interest rate or not. If they don't like a Governments policies they'll bring them down like they did with Liz Truss. How long did that take? A couple of weeks at the most. Obviously Reeves has seen numbers that have spooked her which is why she's looking to make cuts in public spending.

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 10:59

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/03/2025 10:51

The Government don't give you anything. They borrow money from the Bond Markets who decide if you have a favourable interest rate or not. If they don't like a Governments policies they'll bring them down like they did with Liz Truss. How long did that take? A couple of weeks at the most. Obviously Reeves has seen numbers that have spooked her which is why she's looking to make cuts in public spending.

They also did that with RR fyi. By the measures that Labour accused Truss of crashing the economy, they also did!

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/03/2025 12:39

I don't think the Bond Markets have moved against RR as drastically as they did against Truss. But as she’s borrowing more she’s breaking her own fiscal rules that she set. She will have to make spending cuts and raise taxes.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 22/03/2025 12:50

They been letting everyone down when it comes to the health service for years in Wales.

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 12:56

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/03/2025 12:39

I don't think the Bond Markets have moved against RR as drastically as they did against Truss. But as she’s borrowing more she’s breaking her own fiscal rules that she set. She will have to make spending cuts and raise taxes.

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-14237235/Labours-stagnant-economics-looks-set-send-bond-yields-higher-Liz-Truss-ALEX-BRUMMER.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/comment/article-14237235/amp/Labours-stagnant-economics-looks-set-send-bond-yields-higher-Liz-Truss-ALEX-BRUMMER.html

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-09/uk-bond-turmoil-gives-labour-nightmare-of-britain-s-1976-debt-crisis

https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/01/09/why-have-britains-bond-yields-jumped-sharply

Double exposure photo of the British Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves.

Why have Britain’s bond yields jumped sharply?

Mostly, blame Donald Trump. But Labour’s policies haven’t helped

https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/01/09/why-have-britains-bond-yields-jumped-sharply

Lencten · 22/03/2025 13:04

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 22/03/2025 12:50

They been letting everyone down when it comes to the health service for years in Wales.

Mention that on MN at one point and you'd get shouted down or called a Tory bot.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/03/2025 14:11

The Labour Party have been able to con voters for years that they're the champions of the working class. They were able to set up the post war welfare state after their election with borrowed money from the US. That's right, the "evil imperialist Yanks" funded it with money we only recently paid off. At one moment, the loan was imperilled as the FBI and CIA thought the Labour Party and Unions were thoroughly infiltrated by Stalinists - true. In 1976 the Labour Chancellor Healey had to call in the IMF for an emergency loan. I shudder to think what would have happened if Corbyn had won the election. They are morons when it comes to managing finances.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 22/03/2025 15:14

Pensioners are accused of being Tory voters. It's because they don't easily forget the dire state of the country in the mid to late seventies under Labour which had energy blackouts owing to miners strikes, endless strikes by other unions and the IMF being called in to bail the country out. The unions were controlled by Moscow to bring the country down. No sooner than being voted in, this Labour Government gave above inflation pay rises to the unions- train drivers etc. That was 10 billion in one go. Borrowing currently on £130 billion a year. Mr Brown introduced tax credits and housing benefit. No doubt this was well intentioned but it just encourages landlords to jack up prices and employers to keep wages low.

duc748 · 22/03/2025 15:17

Whereas of course, what they should have done was...

EasternStandard · 23/03/2025 08:47

Not tried to wipe out growth and all the cuts that come with that