I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

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Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

The latest polling from YouGov shows that women are falling out of love with Labour fast. In the first month of Starmer’s government, only a third (32 per cent) of women said they “disapproved of the Government’s record so far”; by mid-February that figure had more than doubled to 68 per cent.

Part-time and low-income jobs, which are disproportionately held by women, are predicted to be hardest hit by the rise in employers’ NI contributions. In the childcare and social care sectors the impact is expected to be particularly tough, with the effects of those changes being felt primarily by women too. Both sectors are major employers of female labour, and when costs rise or their services are shut down, it is women’s lives that are affected too.

High-net-worth women are also disappointed. The Saltus Wealth Index polls people holding more than £250,000 in investable assets. It revealed that women in this group were slightly more likely than men to have voted Labour in last summer’s election, and that Labour was still the most popular party for wealthy women – but of the 38 per cent who voted Labour in July, 68 per cent now regretted their decision.

From an article in the "i" https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

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This. It’s been clear for a long time Labour is not the party of women. The progressive left / left in the general is not interested in working class people or women. Their attention has shifted to the interests of middle class university educated people.

Does anyone seriously think that even if you forcibley moved older people out of their family homes this would solve the housing crisis.

Who has said, anyone should be forcibley removed from their home?

If you are going to lecture people on not understanding the situation, you should at least stop making accusations up.

Lots of the problems with politics now is that people are being divided by age, and not class.

The repeated inability of 2 decades of opposing politicians to tax the people making millions and billions is probably linked to people not wanting to work. I know when I worked for a multi-national I felt dirty. I knew the company wasn't doing good things for the planet, that the people at the top were psychopathic and greedy. Who wants to spend a lifetime working for people like that?

I’m very disillusioned with them but what’s the alternative? Tories were worse and I wouldn’t vote Reform for a million pounds, the rats.

They should have taxed the richest people more, rather than gone for disabled people. It’s cowardly. They are supposed to be not the Tories, not Tories on steroids.

Although I don’t have a problem with proper assessment of need in the welfare system, and they should be doing that anyway.

I posted a bit before the election about Labour's planned attack on the most vulnerable in society. People hoped without any evidence that Labour would be better than the Tories but sadly it's the people I care for who will pay the price. I'm an unpaid carer on CA for 2 profoundly disabled housebound people - when their PIP goes I can get a good job but it won't balance out the probable £40k each their social care will cost. There's always assisted dying I suppose. It's nightmarish.

(I never expected the rampant scabbing freeloading freebie grabbing though)

I had doubts about their policies mostly because the economic basics looked like they would land on cuts. We haven’t had a Gov with this rhetoric for a while, even Blair didn’t he got you needed the private sector thriving.

It hasn’t taken long, only 7/8 months and we’re at welfare cuts already.

Pre GE no chance this point landing though, just the usual backlash and name calling.

They were meant to rely on growth, they’ve halved projections, and in wiping out headroom have now gone for welfare cuts as well as others.

I checked the Labour pre-election manifesto. A bit of word salad about benefits, but nothing that would signpost what was to come.
Except previous statements like the one in this image.

Am I right in thinking that Labour are making massive welfare cuts because it had to be done and they have a huge majority so are safe to make such measures?

So the Tories would've wanted to do similar but they knew it would've been the end of them.

I actually voted Tory even though I've always voted for left wing governments because I didn't trust Starmer and thought our Conservative government seemed pretty left of centre anyway - I way preferred Sunak to him.

They should have taxed the richest people more,

But it's too easy to say that (and parade your caring qualities at the same time) there's always someone richer than us who ought to pay more in taxes. SM is full of people saying, don't hurt the most vulnerable, tax the super-rich. It seems like such a pain-free option, doesn't it? Make Elon Musk pay! But in the real world, it doesn't work, and if the Left is ever to be taken seriously again, it has to think smarter about taxation and how governments raise money.

In fact I'd say any real improvements in the Welfare State can only be done not just by taxing the super-rich, but requiring middle-class families (like Telegraph readers, say) to take a bigger share of the burden.

Pre GE Labour pledged to make changes due to high growth not cuts.

So it’s not in the manifesto? It’ll be harder to get through HoL

Very little of this was in the manifesto, but then the manifesto was deliberately short on detail. I think most voters understood that there wasn't much money and things would suck for a while. I wish Labour had treated the voters like adults.

Instead we got this vibes-based thing about how brilliant economist Rachel Reeves was going to unlock growth, and this would allow Labour to do lots of nice things. In a clever bit of salesmanship (had McSweeney been reading The Art of the Deal?) there were few promises of nice things, they just allowed voters to imagine the nice things Labour would do.

We're now at the point of the cycle where Reeves, instead of treating us like adults, is moaning about sexist men talking her down. Well, yeah, but that would be less of a problem if she hadn't been massively oversold in the first place.

I was schooled by a father who encouraged me to go to Liverpool for Uni as he thought Derek Hatton* was God.
If there was a picket line, he was on it.
The workhouses that near generations had been sent to cast a long shadow for people like my dad.
He was born in 1935 and talked about what life was like if someone got ill. He told me having the NHS felt like a miracle. That ordinary people could access a doctor.
How unions stopped horrific worker exploitation.
I do remember how powerful they became in the 70’s and didn’t cover themselves in glory.
I can remember the miners’ strikes, and the poverty due to unemployment in the 80’s.
Norman Tebbit had that famous line about getting on your bike to find a job.
But even he didn’t tell people to get in their wheelchairs to find one. It would have caused the same reaction as the Poll Tax - riots.
I said yesterday I’d quite like to close my eyes and go back to lockdown I’d even watch Boris on the telly every night if need be. And somewhere I could hear my dad spinning….
*Derek Hatton turned out to not be God.

I'd agree with this, and actually I'd go further- it would require a lot of us on average incomes to contribute more too. People need to buy into it though, I think we need a proper contributory social insurance system. It's how most other welfare states are paid for. Obviously you'd still need nob-contribution based for people born with disabilities or who have accidents in their adolescence.

People love to go-on about Thatcher, forgetting that the basic rate of income tax was 30% for most of her government. Basically, the problem remains that people want benefits for them, but not others, and someone else should pay for it all.

Non-contribution, d'oh. No nob-contributions, thanks.

Yet anyone criticising Labour was shot down during, and immediately after, the election as being a Tory bot??
Funnily enough haven't heard many of those comments recently.....

That was pretty much this site with added attacks.

Labour’s policies will have impacted some this week.

Up until the announcement there was talk of it being the media speculating etc. I suppose we have to go through cuts to see the reality.

All the applauding earlier Labour policies whether it’s hits on farmers, students, pensioners or businesses was rife, easy when it’s someone else but not so easy to defend when it’s welfare cuts.

Not all of us bought their hype

Yes I'm surprised too at harsh things like the Winter fuel allowance etc.

My distrust of the Labour party was that I believed Sunak when he said the party would have an impact on the vulnerable, when they were doing the head to heads. I don't know, it just sounded genuine comment, not actual spin.

I think more than ever I will vote based on the MPs / leader rather than the ideology of the party (never Reform though!).

Well you can't deny he's true to his word, he's had an impact on the vulnerable....

As the women here were repeatly told by bullies before the election, "Labour have done more for woman and minorities than the Tories."

It would go very quiet when it was pointed out 3 female PM's and one non-white PM have come and gone Under Tory Rules while labour still has a white man in charge....

And you know the only PM to really care about disability Benefits, also was a conservative, because he had a disabled son.

Everyone saying they should have taxed the rich more the rich are leaving. We won’t have any wealth left and we need them desperately to invest in business and grow this dire economy. Love or hate the rich they are the wealth machines and it all filters down.

What they need to do is tax the overseas businesses more stop giving them all the tax breaks.

And here is radical idea in economics if you lower taxes the economic landscape improves as people feel better off and spend more.

We are being taxed into recession, people aren’t spending, shops can’t sell, business close. As for the housing market they need to stop stamp duty on downsizes, then we will see more people releasing the larger homes, as it is they stay put to avoid being taxed, that will help in some part to get more stock online, as currently it’s just all the landlords selling up.

I haven't read the full thread but this Labour government is despicable in its treatment of women. The burden of the PIP changes on 18-22 year olds alone will fall mostly on women.

If the policies that have recently been introduced had been introduced by the Tories there would be endless threads about the evil Tories, yet there are die hard Labour supporters on these threads that won't criticise Starmer, no matter what he does.

I was in the pub last night and was chatting to people, we are in a staunch Labour area and have a Labour run council. I heard last night that the leader of our Labour Party has resigned his membership of the Labour Party as morally he can't be a member with the Starmer version of the Labour Party.

I didn't vote for Labour in the last election, in the end I exercised my right not to vote.

I think that Starmer is currently set on an agenda which will advance the fortunes of the Reform party.