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I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

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IwantToRetire · 18/03/2025 18:51

Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

The latest polling from YouGov shows that women are falling out of love with Labour fast. In the first month of Starmer’s government, only a third (32 per cent) of women said they “disapproved of the Government’s record so far”; by mid-February that figure had more than doubled to 68 per cent.

Part-time and low-income jobs, which are disproportionately held by women, are predicted to be hardest hit by the rise in employers’ NI contributions. In the childcare and social care sectors the impact is expected to be particularly tough, with the effects of those changes being felt primarily by women too. Both sectors are major employers of female labour, and when costs rise or their services are shut down, it is women’s lives that are affected too.

High-net-worth women are also disappointed. The Saltus Wealth Index polls people holding more than £250,000 in investable assets. It revealed that women in this group were slightly more likely than men to have voted Labour in last summer’s election, and that Labour was still the most popular party for wealthy women – but of the 38 per cent who voted Labour in July, 68 per cent now regretted their decision.

From an article in the "i" https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

Can also be read at https://archive.is/zXtxe

I regret voting Labour - they've let women down

Polling shows that women are falling out of love with Labour - thanks to economic policies that will hit them the hardest and 'unforgivable' aid cuts

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/regret-voting-labour-women-3580582

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Greyskybluesky · 19/03/2025 09:37

I wonder if it was a paid gig?

It often felt like it, it was endless. Someone asked her that once though and she denied it.

ETA: well I suppose she was hardly going to admit it if it was!

Flossflower · 19/03/2025 09:44

Really there was no choice at the last election. The Conservatives were so corrupt and that man in charge of the Lib Dem’s seemed to think that politics was about making a fool of himself.
More than anything I was upset by the rise in National Insurance contributions. It just kills jobs.

SidewaysOtter · 19/03/2025 09:46

I suspect there is an element of no matter what party got into power they were going to have to do something about the vast welfare costs etc. But Labour have gone about things so ineptly, it’s staggering. Particularly on the economy, Reeves really comes across as not having a clue.

Wes Streeting I have time for but not so much most of the rest. Starmer is a colossal disappointment.

And yes, we were all lectured extensively about how indescribably awful we were for saying we wouldn’t vote Labour on the issue of women’s rights/identities and yet look at what a shit show we’ve ended up with. Where are all the scolds now?

illinivich · 19/03/2025 09:47

The fundamental problem is that thet are a party of lawyers, activists and unionists and dont have any interest let alone knowledge of business. They have no idea how to make real money by growing the economy, so are having to make smaller savings everywhere else and tax wherever possible.

EasternStandard · 19/03/2025 09:49

illinivich · 19/03/2025 09:47

The fundamental problem is that thet are a party of lawyers, activists and unionists and dont have any interest let alone knowledge of business. They have no idea how to make real money by growing the economy, so are having to make smaller savings everywhere else and tax wherever possible.

Exactly it’s a spiral downwards.

Lilifer · 19/03/2025 09:56

There is no "labour" or "conservative" nor has been for a long time. UK is governed by a Uniparty, two cheeks of the same arse, an illusion of choice at the polls every 5 years.

JeremiahBullfrog · 19/03/2025 10:09

I'm suspicious of any criticism of policies that haven't come into effect yet. There was a lot of criticism of the private school VAT but so far the doomsayers' predictions seem not to have materialised. There are a lot of people who are invested in Labour failing, but not because they care about women or the poor or the disabled in the slightest.

If the NI policy works as intended, it will allow more public spending, boosting the economy and quality of life in general, and creating more wealth for women and everyone else. That's a pretty big if, admittedly, but I'd prefer to reserve judgement on the policy until we see how it actually turns out.

YourBestFriend · 19/03/2025 10:10

Ok, you got me. I am voting Conservative next GE.
NOT.

Lilifer · 19/03/2025 10:17

"If the NI policy works as intended, it will allow more public spending, boosting the economy and quality of life in general, and creating more wealth for women and everyone else"

Except that the revenue raised from the NI increases is going to fund the increase in Defence spending and continued financial aid to Ukraine, 12.8 billion committed to Ukraine as of feb 2025

www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-support-to-ukraine-factsheet/uk-support-to-ukraine-factsheet

skintasabint · 19/03/2025 11:00

I will never vote for Labour ever again and I was a paid up member.

EasternStandard · 19/03/2025 11:00

JeremiahBullfrog · 19/03/2025 10:09

I'm suspicious of any criticism of policies that haven't come into effect yet. There was a lot of criticism of the private school VAT but so far the doomsayers' predictions seem not to have materialised. There are a lot of people who are invested in Labour failing, but not because they care about women or the poor or the disabled in the slightest.

If the NI policy works as intended, it will allow more public spending, boosting the economy and quality of life in general, and creating more wealth for women and everyone else. That's a pretty big if, admittedly, but I'd prefer to reserve judgement on the policy until we see how it actually turns out.

It’s still too early to say on private schools.

What do you think of the welfare cuts Labour are introducing?

nomoretoriesforme · 19/03/2025 11:38

Lilifer · 19/03/2025 09:56

There is no "labour" or "conservative" nor has been for a long time. UK is governed by a Uniparty, two cheeks of the same arse, an illusion of choice at the polls every 5 years.

100% this. I’m afraid it will get much worse for all of us.

ScholesPanda · 19/03/2025 12:15

I voted for Labour and whilst I have mixed views on their performance so far, I don't regret my decision.

Reading the article, it just sounds like any tax rise or cut to services is bad and a 'personal attack'. That doesn't seem sustainable to me, the country needed change.

T4Tango · 19/03/2025 12:57

Lilifer · 19/03/2025 09:56

There is no "labour" or "conservative" nor has been for a long time. UK is governed by a Uniparty, two cheeks of the same arse, an illusion of choice at the polls every 5 years.

I believe it's been like that from the start.

anyolddinosaur · 19/03/2025 13:00

None of the main parties had any policies that seemed likely to promote growth. It's actually still early days to judge what Labour are trying to achieve - and in reality, not the fantasy world where some Labour voters live, they have little choice over cuts. Life was always going to get worse, whoever got in. Labour will suffer in any elections over the next couple of years.

All the parties knew there had to be cuts and they all lied because the British public do not vote for the truth.

I'm pleased they settled with doctors - for now - and that they are undoing the wasteful duplication with NHS England. They've stopped the waste of money on puberty blockers and Stonewall lost some of it's government funding. Making pensions passed on subject to inheritance tax is also encouraging people to spend or pass on money now, that's good for the economy. It was right to take the winter fuel allowance from the rich, although they took it from too many poor. They could have made it taxable and withdrawn completely from higher rate tax payers. Housebuilding plans, if achieved, will be another plus.

Reserving judgement on the benefit changes until I see how they are applied. I do know people who should be working and are not, or who choose to work less hours than they could. I also know people who can never work and should not be harassed over it. I suspect it will not deal with the former while harming the latter.

Grammarnut · 19/03/2025 13:02

IwantToRetire · 19/03/2025 02:01

Every time I hear an announcement from Labour on the news I have a momentary doubt that maybe there was no election and the tories are still in power.

I accept financial problems need to be tackled, but why every time do they pick on those with the least money.

They are trying so hard not to be Corbyn that they seem quite unable to implement some sort of cut / tax hike to those with more money.

Or tackling all the international companies that use tax dodger to pay their fair share.

Apart from in the early days when they gave some of the more powerful unions pay increases everything is about making those at the bottom carry the load of the financial problems.

As well as, like the Tories implying that those getting aid or whatever are the problem implying somehow they are cheating the system.

When 9 times out of 10 (if not 10 out of 10) it is the system that is the problem.

Lets say they are right that too many people that dont really qualify are getting PiP (or whatever it is calle now) why are they then cutting the money people are getting instead of looking at the system that said they should get pip. (Although given the many stories about how bad the assessment process is I cant understand how any one can say too many people are getting it) So fix the system. Not punish those who didn't create and dont apply the system.

Just like the problem of asylum seekers. Those coming in boats are doing so because the UK under the Tories and still under Labour, has failed to set up application centres in different countries in Europe. ie there is no system to make applications so obviously people just try to get there. And as in fact the majority are then assessed as being genuine asylum seekers all they have done is saved money on setting up application centres, but paying out far more on temporary accommodation because what system there is in the UK is so slow, people who could be working and paying their way, just have to sit and wait.

And of course Labour and the tabloids dont mention that the real "migrant" problem is the number of people who come here to work based on accepted criteria because we dont have enough people with the right skills to fill the jobs on offer.

They could start a massive house building programme, which would create jobs and then provide much needed housing, instead of which they allow private companies to build houses that aren't the type that are needed, whilst spending zillions of £££s on temporary, over priced, shoddy private accommodation.

It is like they have been brain washed by the tories. Some how private companies will save the day.

They have been brain-washed by neo-liberal mantras such as 'private is more efficient' and 'less is more' etc. There are no longer any socialist parties in Western Europe, they all talk the same trickle-down, austerity mantras that have already shown they do not work.

SionnachRuadh · 19/03/2025 13:26

I voted SDP, not because I agree with them on everything, but because they've got some good ideas and I wanted to encourage them.

As far as Labour goes, the really obvious thing is that they said very little about policy in their election campaign. It was all about competence and integrity. On integrity, let's just say Starmer banging on for years about standards in public office made a rod for his own government's back.

On competence, to listen to Reeves you'd have thought there were all these obvious buttons that could be pushed for economic growth, and the problem was that Jeremy Hunt was refusing to push them. I didn't believe that - there were serious problems that would be a challenge for any government.

I wasn't expecting much from Labour, but Jesus, I wasn't expecting them to make Rishi Sunak look like he was born under a lucky star.

SionnachRuadh · 19/03/2025 13:28

Maybe things will look up, but at this point I think they've alienated everyone except for junior doctors and train drivers.

moreorlessbutnotquite · 19/03/2025 13:46

Labour are keeping the red flag flying.

Just the wrong type of red flag 🚩

lady69 · 19/03/2025 13:52

Lilifer · 19/03/2025 09:56

There is no "labour" or "conservative" nor has been for a long time. UK is governed by a Uniparty, two cheeks of the same arse, an illusion of choice at the polls every 5 years.

Exactly! Aka “the blob”.

AprilF00L · 19/03/2025 13:53

I think Labour truly despise women - they certainly are a women hating party.

Lencten · 19/03/2025 14:01

I suspect there is an element of no matter what party got into power they were going to have to do something about the vast welfare costs

I made that point on several poltical threads and posters didn't want to hear it.

We will be getting the unpopular stuff now far away from next election while they still have large majority that mainly votes with them.

I didn't vote for them despite the scolding on here - and I didn't vote Tory either. Nether looking great then or now TBH - so no idea what will happen next election.

duc748 · 19/03/2025 14:08

Lencten · 19/03/2025 14:01

I suspect there is an element of no matter what party got into power they were going to have to do something about the vast welfare costs

I made that point on several poltical threads and posters didn't want to hear it.

We will be getting the unpopular stuff now far away from next election while they still have large majority that mainly votes with them.

I didn't vote for them despite the scolding on here - and I didn't vote Tory either. Nether looking great then or now TBH - so no idea what will happen next election.

That's about where I am. I wouldn't vote for Labour, but I wished them well in a difficult job, like PP. And something had to be done about the cost of PIP. But, as with the WFA, they are alienating their natural support. And I still don't trust them at all on gender.

ElizaDolittle4321 · 19/03/2025 14:30

ScholesPanda · 19/03/2025 12:15

I voted for Labour and whilst I have mixed views on their performance so far, I don't regret my decision.

Reading the article, it just sounds like any tax rise or cut to services is bad and a 'personal attack'. That doesn't seem sustainable to me, the country needed change.

Change is one thing, cutting vital services to the most vulnerable in the community is quite another. As I said, they out-toried the tories! Not even the tories were this bloody cruel and evil!

SionnachRuadh · 19/03/2025 14:40

I'm not convinced that Starmer himself has a plan, or any guiding ideology. It's worth reading the new book Get In, by Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund, about his path to power. It's a weird book because you learn a lot about infighting and backstabbing within Labour, but at the end you're none the wiser as to what if anything Starmer actually believes. He seems to be a pure managerialist without any actual politics, and we just had that with Rishi.

Following on from that, the direction of the government will be determined by the people he has around him, and since Sue Gray was ousted, that overwhelmingly means disciples of the Dark Lord Blair.

So the best way of figuring out what the government is going to do is to look at the website of the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, and assume that what the TBI is saying today will be government policy in six to nine months.

At the moment the TBI is pushing the idea that AI will unlock growth and make the NHS efficient. To which I say, big if true.

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