Elon Musk's trans daughter outs him for sex-selective IVF ie he wants sons

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Some of the wording in the article are not exactly FWR, but am posting more because (and it may not be true) the 15 (?) children he now has are because women have willing acting as "hosts" for IVF created babies. (Not surprised he would only want sons.)

In a post on Threads on Monday, Wilson — who is estranged from her father and frequently calls him out on social media — accused Musk of viewing her as “going against the product that was sold” when she came out as trans.

“My assigned sex at birth was a commodity that was bought and paid for. So when I was feminine as a child and then turned out to be transgender, I was going against the product that was sold. That expectation of masculinity that I had to rebel against all my life was a monetary transaction. A monetary transaction. A MONETARY TRANSACTION.”

Musk has made headlines over the years for his controversial approach to fatherhood, including his decision to have 14 children in large part because he is concerned with population decline, according to Walter Isaacson’s biography Elon Musk.

Now, Wilson is suggesting that Musk is focused on having boys through IVF. Out of his 14 children, he only has two cisgender daughters and one trans daughter, the rest are boys.

“How the f—k is this legal,” Wilson commented on her own post.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/elon-musks-trans-daughter-outs-151252447.html

No he has two daughters the rest are sons.

I said the article wasn't inline with FWR language and was making a totally different point.

The issue is about IVF and sex selection.

Which is family situations is bad enough but if made available to to multimillionare who can (possibily) pay any number of women to have his male children is something else entirely.

It is possible to have a discussion on FWR without just intoning the forum base line.

Well, for people who say he's a wanker, the fact that all of his children are the product of IVF tends to support that.

IVF creates more boys in general, but I wouldn't be surprised if he engages in gender selection. Mad man.

I don't think we need to pay too much attention to someone who comes out with nonsense like this:

I was feminine as a child ...That expectation of masculinity that I had to rebel against all my life ...

He thinks feminine boys shouldn't exist and being male is all about masculinity. He could teach Carla Denyer a few things though, so that she doesn't look so much of an idiot next time someone asks her about how a man can live as a woman. He could explain that living as a woman is all about being feminine.

I don't believe this accusation is of any substance, I think this transwoman has their own agenda with their father.

CreationNat1on · Today 20:08

IVF creates more boys in general, but I wouldn't be surprised if he engages in gender selection. Mad man.

Is that so? I didn't know about that, do you know the ratio? I was taught in 1st Year Biology that in human pregnancies, it's 51% male to 49% female, but it balances out after birth, as male immune systems are not as good and boys do riskier things and kill themselves.

It's true that you can choose the sex of IVF offspring, with a very high accuracy rate indeed, in many countries.

I'll leave it others to comment on what this [sex being determined within seconds of fertilisation] implies for the TRAs' old favourite line that everyone starts off female etc etc etc.

If that's not a demonstration of how transgenderism is a mental health issue, I don't know what is.

I wonder what his son thinks about surrogacy? Something tells me he’s all for it!

“Trans identifying male describes underlying trauma at root of his gender distress” would be another way of putting it.

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I was under the impression that Musk’s five IVF sons with his first wife were a maladaptive response to the loss of their first (naturally conceived) baby boy to SIDS?

And that those two (twin and triplet) IVF pregnancies were instigated by the mother?

Obvs being sex selected as a zygote to replace the dead brother you never met is likely to fuck you up in all sorts of ways (eg rebelling by claiming to be a woman) but I don’t thInk it’s fair to assume that the sex selection was due to misogyny rather than
grief.

Off to dig out a link…

It is possible to have a discussion on FWR without just intoning the forum base line

You mean, is it possible to have a discussion on FWR without people insisting on accurate language?

He’s a disturbed lad, which is hardly surprising given his upbringing.

Indeed. How does he think his father manage to select the sex of the embryos? Especially if sex is only assigned at birth?

Whilst sex selection is not common, most people who have babies after loss are to some extent ‘replacing the dead sibling’. But it is not about a direct replacement; the parents wanted a family, they have lost a child but the desire for a family is still there so naturally parents will seek to recapture that.

2010 article written by Justine Musk - Elon deffo isn’t depicted sympathetically but Justine appears to be the instigator of the IVF.

Obvs the post divorce babies aren’t anything to do with Justine (but they aren’t ALL boys).

Amber Heard’s IVF/surrogacy babies are rumoured to be Elon’s too. IIRC they are both girls and not counted in his official total as he didn’t consent to the embryos being thawed, she had to go to court to use them.

https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/

(long article so I screenshotted the relevant bit)

Elon Musk's exploitative use of women to bear his children is pretty vile and adds weight to claims he is misogynistic, though I think there's plenty more fuel for that fire too.

I find sex selection ill advised but think it is better tackled by ensuring girls and boys hold equal value in society than by stopping people from being able to have their preference. I would rather no girl was brought up by a father (or mother) who didn't want her (and ditto for a boy), than have the state get involved in barring forms of sex selection.

Whether Musk has engaged in sex selection isn't clear though. Wilson has an obvious agenda and has offered no proof that Musk has pushed for this with the children he's fathered.

Natural selection would have taken care of his bloodline had it not been for the size of his wallet.

I can definitely sympathise with bereaved parents making decisions influenced by loss (5 baby boys in quick succession seems a bit excessive to me but Justine Musk carried those pregnancies herself and they could certainly afford to raise multiples/hire nannies)

I disagree with sex selection, though it is legal in many countries. It has lead to millions of girls ‘missing’ from populations in many countries and this has had a negative impact on women in those countries.

I’m conflicted. I don’t support sex selective IVF and certainly wouldn’t want it for myself but it’s better to only implant boy embryos than abandon or murder baby girls or coerce women into sex selective abortions.

it is fascinating that humans naturally produce more or less 50/50 M/F offspring as long as we don’t meddle with it!

Well he’s an idiot to go about repopulating the earth via IVF given that studies show the results can be dysgenic.

https://academic.oup.com/humupd/article-abstract/19/3/232/727781?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9773093/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1169208/