More than 170 mothers killed by their sons in 15 years in UK - Femicide Census

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The Femicide Census latest report. The Guardian article highlights the issue of mothers killed by their sons.

So much male violence against women.

https://www.femicidecensus.org

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/05/more-than-170-mothers-killed-by-sons-15-years-uk-report

https://x.com/FemicideCensus/status/1897212732774166841

Link to full report:
https://www.femicidecensus.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2000-Women-full-report.pdf

Absolute bastards every single one.

A proportion would have been mentally ill and had no mental health support so their mothers still stuck by them to try and help.

This came up last year and that there are some strange guidelines (in the past or maybe still) women over 70(?) who are attacked by a male family member would not be categorised as a victim of domestic violence.

This is so sad.

the Crime Survey England and Wales does not collect data on adults over 74.
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/siteassets/documents/reports-and-publications/reports-and-briefings/id204298-domestic-abuse-a5-booklet.pdf

I assume daughters was zero?

Another thread about the same has been started in Chat as the report was mentioned on the news.

1 in 10 women murdered by a man are murdered by their son! And this is an increasing trend! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/5287812-1-in-10-women-murdered-by-a-man-are-murdered-by-their-son-and-this-is-an-increasing-trendedone-in-en

Just awful. Those poor women. I agree it's probably a lot to do with failing MH services, CoL meaning more men living with their parents, but more divorces and separations meaning that often means a single mum, as so many more women than men are willing to or feel they have to take on the responsibility. Where there are two parents there, a violent son might in some cases be less likely to succeed in a murder or manslaughter.

Plus misogynistic and incel-type movements brainwashing a lot of young men to blame and hate women.

I wonder what the figures are for men killed by their sons. As for daughters killing their mums, it has happened, I remember reading about a case that involved extreme PMT, quite a while ago. But I imagine pretty rare.

As posted up thread if you read the report itself they have laid out the information in various charts and (for me anyway) makes it easier to absord the information.
https://www.femicidecensus.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2000-Women-full-report.pdf

Yes, that's pretty much what I was assuming too. It seems like the problem is almost always male violence.

A lot of substance abuse involved in many of these cases.

Well it's not zero.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ywjvwe01no

I remembered this one, and just googled to find the link - there were quite a lot of links to women (and teenage girls) murdering their mothers in the US, for some reason.

In Spain this year already 5 out of 11 women killed by men are by their sons. Not counted in the official statistics on gender violence.

That is shocking about the official stats - perhaps not surprising. Are there calls for these cases to be included?

Not zero, there was a recent case in the news of a woman killing both her parents and hiding the bodies for ages. There are others.

But no where near the level of male on female violence obviously

Heartbreaking. Thanks for sharing, OP.

There are many women and families who are not getting the help they need. That includes addiction, mental health, and dv.

Not zero, there was a recent case in the news of a woman killing both her parents and hiding the bodies for ages. There are others.

This is the one that posted 2 before yours.

There aren't any others.

Although in terms of elder abuse women, daughters, sisters have been identified as being equally likely as male relatives.

And although in the past if was thought more mothers were responsible for murdering their children, recent statistics seem to suggest this is no longer true.

Probably because of the increase in the number of Family Annihilators killings.

I hadnt read your post before I posted mine and there are others, you said so yourself?

In any case its somewhat irrelevant to the vast majority of killings by males, often violence starting in childhood and excused quite often I find.

There are many threads on here by exasperated mothers who are struggling with violent, often very young, sons. I really hope they can get the right help in enough time.

And why when we get to 74 are we discounted from stats (and maybe don’t matter to society? ) So fine to murder anyone old😳What a very odd rule.

What is the help though? Medication, you cant force someone to take and a lot of children I work with refuse to take their medication

Therapy? Often not engaged with or not the 'fix' that people fantasise that therapy is

Removing the child? To where? It doesnt always stop the violence and usually once in adulthood is when the risk raises again to other people as they may move back home

I thought that had been changed?!

It’s so difficult 😔
Maybe incentivising fathers to stay in the home?

It's the Crime Survey for England and Wales that used to not record domestic violence of victims over 74. It was only 16 - 59 year olds originally, expanded to include 60 - 74 year olds in, I think 2009, and expanded to cover over 74 year olds in, I think, 2020. IIRC reasons for it being limited originally were to do with difficulty in getting reliable samples and distress about the questions from respondents.

However, since the Crime Survey records reports from victims, for obvious reasons, it doesn't cover murder at all. The stats here on murders by sons is not based on Crime Survey data. Murder stats normally come from police reports and have always covered all age ranges.