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Help finding short poem

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CyclingSam · 20/02/2025 10:46

It's topical re: gender ideology. A woman is arguing with a man, I think about the way the earth moves around the sun, ending with the earth continuing to move(?). I've seen it here before - help!

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Shortpoet · 20/02/2025 10:47

It's the first verse of this

Differences of Opinion
by Wendy Cope
1.
HE TELLS HER
He tells her that the earth is flat —
He knows the facts, and that is that.
In altercations fierce and long
She tries her best to prove him wrong.
But he has learned to argue well.
He calls her arguments unsound
And often asks her not to yell.
She cannot win. He stands his ground.
The planet goes on being round.
2.
YOUR MOTHER KNOWS
Your mother knows the earth’s a plane
And, challenged, sheds a martyr’s tear.
God give her strength to bear this pain –
A child who says the world’s a sphere!
Challenged, she sheds a martyr’s tear.
It’s bad to make your mother cry
By telling her the world’s a sphere.
It’s very bad to tell a lie.
It’s bad to make your mother cry.
It’s bad to think your mother odd.
It’s very bad to tell a lie.
All this has been ordained by God.
It’s bad to think your mother odd.
The world is round. That’s also true.
All this has been ordained by God.
It’s hard to see what you can do.
The world is round. That must be true.
She’s praying, hoping you will change.
It’s hard to see what you can do.
Already people find you strange.
She’s praying, hoping you will change.
You’re difficult. You don’t fit in.
Already people find you strange.
You know your anger is a sin.
You’re difficult. You don’t fit in.
God give her strength to bear this pain.
You know your anger is a sin.
Your mother knows the earth’s a plane.

CyclingSam · 20/02/2025 10:48

THANK YOU

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AtomicBlondeRose · 20/02/2025 10:49

Ah, got here too late. I love Wendy Cope!

Shortpoet · 20/02/2025 10:49

no problem. Formatting is not right in this post - layout is better on this site

Differences of Opinion — OneLimited

NChat · 20/02/2025 10:55

And Iris Child's variation:
https://irischild.blogspot.com/2017/08/he-tells-her-after-wendy-cope.html?m=1

CyclingSam · 20/02/2025 11:28

Thankyouthankyouthankyou. Both now feature in my little blog, which is very far off the beaten path but with this link about to be visited by many 'bots from the planet 'bot, and maybe a few humans. Thanks also to @cheekysnake for feeding my quoting addiction.

https://www.notanothercyclingforum.net/index.php?topic=10703.0

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