In quite the turnaround Scottish Labour say the support Sandie Peggie, and would not support the GRR bill "knowing what they know now"!

[GargoylesofBeelzebub]

x.com/holyroodsources/status/1891851822278590711?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

FFS. What is different now? It's not as if they weren't told over and over again what the consequences would be. 🙄

He will say "Look, I've always been very clear about this"

The same way, when a child says "nae kiddin", you know you're about to hear an outrageous lie.

Starmer will just buy himself time by saying its a Scottish issue...until the Darlington nurses have their tribunal. (bet those nurses are feeling good!)

Unions give members the option to contribute towards their political fund, which I believe goes to Labour, and the STUC sort of oversees all these unions so if Scottish Labour can't get the unions on board, they're fucked, although many union members and reps are pro SNP now so they already were fucked.

Unions and political parties should be separate.

Some trade unions are affiliated to the labour party: no idea how many. In my own union political funds go toward campaigning on political issues, they don't go to political parties.

https://unherd.com/newsroom/scottish-labour-conference-derailed-by-single-sex-space-debate/

Joan Smith in unherd.

'On Friday, just days after the leadership of Scottish Labour expressed regret for backing a bill to allow self-ID, the party’s conference delivered a stinging rebuke by voting against single-sex spaces in schools.
Let that sink in: delegates to Scottish Labour are still so in thrall to a discredited ideology that they don’t think girls are entitled to their own toilets and changing rooms. They defeated a motion, supported by the party’s ruling body, calling for schools to respect single sex spaces “based on biology”. They don’t like the recommendations of the Cass review either. Delegates described it as “deeply problematic” and called on Scottish Labour to “stand on the right side of history”.'

@ArabellaScott we need an extension of the agree/thanks/love/laugh system on here. Definitely need anger and disbelief.

I am beyond being shocked but am hugely disappointed. First Unison, now Scottish Labour conference.

These issues need to be full party vote.

Good grief

https://labourlist.org/2025/02/scottish-labour-conference-2025-cass-report-motion/

Scottish Labour Women's Declaration have tweeted that some Labour delegates described their motion as 'misinformation'.

I have so much admiration for these women but dear Lord, at what point do you say, 'fuck the fuck off you snivelling fools' and walk away?

x.com/LWDScotland/status/1893354868112261530

Just when you thought it might be safe to vote Scottish Labour again...

It seems to me reading the article posted just upthread that the people in favour of the motion had concrete reasons for supporting it, the folx against it...well their 'reasoning' was nebulous or wrong.

Well now, it looks like it doesn't matter whether you vote Labour or SNP, you'll get the policy positions of the Scottish Greens.

The Scottish Greens, led by the Feral Potato and Lorna 'Gingerbread Man' Slater -

I try not to be rude about Patrick Harvie. He's not been the same since someone stole his toadstool and fishing rod.

Hah! That made me chortle out loud!

He's such an angry wee scrote, isn't he?

I don't know how Shaunie Boy got him to agree to appear in those skits😄

I haven't seen this one for a while but it's such a great sketch 😂

I'm not in Scotland, so my where I live is not specifically affected by what's covered in it.. until the last bit of course.. "willy snippers for the little nippers".... yup 😬 Bridget Phillipson, please sort that out.

Someone pointed out on the thread I first saw this on that "Beth" is written on the sign as a mnemonic behind the Patrick Harvie character. Obviously that's OG Beth. But quite topical for now too I should think.

Like so much lately, it's funny, but it's not.

Scottish Labour Women's Declaration stall was very popular

We've been having a great time at our #LWDScotLab25 stall. Lots of Scottish Labour MPs, MSPs, councillors and members have stopped by to chat. Good to talk to Jackie Ballie n[Deputy leader] about how the party needs to address organisational capture. Come and say hello and collect our info!

Significant Article reports on the LWD event at conference which was very busy and made important points.

Schools could face Sandie Peggie-style legal dispute -- Herald
Susan Smith, co-director of For Women Scotland, said: "The guidance in schools is non-statutory and there will at some point be a case against the local authority in a school and I think they will lose it.
"That is expensive and you do not want it. It just takes on parent to do that."
Speaking at a Labour Women's Declaration fringe on Saturday morning, she added: "This is an open goal for attacking the SNP. It's there for the taking."
https://archive.is/Dry7Z

Major article from The Times looks at the big implications of what is happening for SNP and Labour:

How trans rights took over Scottish politics — and aren’t going away

Nicola Sturgeon’s seemingly innocuous pledge to protect the LGBTQ+ community took down two first ministers and became a defining political row

Last week Anas Sarwar and Jackie Baillie, leader and deputy leader of Scottish Labour, revealed that they regretted their votes for the Gender Recognition Reform Bill. If they wished to be thanked for this volte-face, they were swiftly disabused: their concerns, while welcome, were too little too late. “Anas does not owe apologies to women like me” said Johann Lamont, the former Labour leader and outspoken critic of the party’s stance on gender issues. “He owes them to women who lobbied MSPs, who turned up at surgeries, who wrote letters, who demonstrated — and who were ignored as they said the things we now see to be true. So the apology is to them for not listening.”
https://archive.is/8IqiS

Statement from LWD Scotland about motion from Glasgow Cathcart CLP at Scottish Conference
https://labourwomensdeclaration.org.uk/statement-from-lwd-scotland-about-motion-from-glasgow-cathcart-clp-at-scottish-conference/

Yet the motion to protect single sex spaces was voted down?

'It also follows a similar debate at last year’s conference, which saw delegates vote down a motion which had urged it to “acknowledge the principle of women’s sex-based rights”, despite most Constituency Labour Party delegates and the Scottish Labour women’s conference supporting that motion.'

I find the disconnect confusing. Who is voting against the motions? Members? But the women's conference supported it? So is it the 'for the men, not for you' Labour bros doing the voting?

Part of me is firmly gritting her teeth at the reverse ferrets but my calm, rational side keeps saying 'golden bridge'. Hopefully the Westminster mob will be watching, learning and practising their 180 turns.

I'm all over the place regarding Labour Women's Declaration. Mostly I really admire them and wish I had their resilience and optimism. But sometimes - and I'm afraid this weekend is one of them - I look at them and I think, 'Have you no dignity?'

As far as I can make out, the change towards protecting women's rights is coming from the top down.

I wonder what the sex ratio is for.Labour party members.

https://www.labourinternational.net/diversity/women/

Just under half of Labour members are women, according to that post.