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USAID - American agency has been funding trans propaganda projects around the globe

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Herewegoagain29 · 05/02/2025 11:32

USA ID - the US agency for industrial developement has been suspended by the Trump administration and now that there is scrutiny over what it has been spending the money on. It has a 30 billion dollar budget and I'm sure it may do some good sometimes with the money but it seems like it was ideologically captured by trans ideology under the influence of the US large corperations and pharmaceutical companies.

Some of it's recent funding -
$1.5 million grant to Serbian 'Groupa Izadji' 'Group comeout' to promote LGBTQ workplace practices
£30 million to research HIV transmission among transgender individuals inSouth Africa
Transgender 'healthcare initiatives' in Vietnam and India
$25,000 for and Opera in Colombia to promote transgender representation in the arts
$32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru.

Looking closer to home, it turns out Stonewall recieves funding from them -"National LGBTQ+ charity Stonewall also said the funding pause would affect its work in eastern Europe and the Caucasus'

BBC Media action also receives funding.
'The BBC's international charity BBC Media Action, which is funded by external grants and voluntary contributions, receives funding from USAID. According to a 2024 report, USAID donated $3.23m (£2.6m), making it the charity's second-largest donor that financial year.
It funds a range of projects in 30 countries and 50 languages across the world,
The charity, which is celebrating its 25th anniversary, says its work is 'building stronger democracies', making a 'safer, more habitable planet' and creating 'more inclusive societies' - especially for the disabled and LGBTQI+ people.'

We know how much pro-trans propaganda the BBC pumps out here but it is depressing to think that it is being beamed into 30 other countries with a clear agenda to promote trans ideology.
However laudable the goals of 'spreading Democracy' are, it is a very Imperialist view and I do not want to fund the empowerment of 'transwoman' in say India to start marching into women's bathrooms there or taking over their sports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14359179/Donald-Trump-Elon-Musks-USAID-closure-hit-BBC-charity.html

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/trump-s-foreign-aid-pause-expected-to-impact-funding-for-uk-charities.html

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VrbzaMeiVOg

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DemeraraAbyss · 06/02/2025 08:48

WhyTheHate · 06/02/2025 08:31

An independent media is the cornerstone of a functioning democracy and a truly democratic government understands that necessarily includes creating spaces for criticism.

But it is not independent when it relies on a single funder. It is by definition a dependent media.

AlisonDonut · 06/02/2025 08:49

This whole shitshow is a perfect display of the man on the bike meme sticking a stick into his own wheel and falling off his own bike and blaming everyone else.

Sneezeless · 06/02/2025 08:54

Aid is rarely given for purely altruistic reasons. It is also about soft power, having a presence and influence in a region. It is not always benign.

AIBot · 06/02/2025 08:58

Funding for trans initiatives is absolutely tiny compared to say, the budget for international famine relief, which is also been pulled.

Trans women are a high transmission risk as a population, it is important to understand how it occurs so that interventions can be trialled to help protect the wider population from infection. Similar studies were done years ago with sex workers in Thailand - understanding transmission and well designed interventions cut the infection rates across the whole population, and sex workers benefited as well. I am gender critical btw, but these things are important.

OolongTeaDrinker · 06/02/2025 09:09

BananaNirvana · 06/02/2025 07:24

Trump wasn’t elected on an anti trans mandate as much as you would like to believe that is the case. It was all about his bullshit on the economy and immigration - that’s what won him the election.

I think it was a bigger factor than you realise and the Kamala is for the they/them ad is widely accepted to be a turning point in favour of the Trump campaign. It got a lot of airtime and got this issue on the radar of people who probably hadn't paid much heed to the trans ideology agenda previously.

Dolphinnoises · 06/02/2025 09:22

AlisonDonut · 06/02/2025 07:55

Whose comments on BBC Media Action?

Is this the disinformation department whose head lied on her CV? Or is that a different disinformation department?

The OP, which implied BBC Media Action was a vehicle to spread DEI propaganda.

Having Googled, you mean Marianna Spring, the BBC’s Disinformation Correspondent. That’s nothing to do with Media Action, which is a charity so legally will have its own structure.

On Marianna Spring, though - she was promoted very young but I think she is a very brave reporter who has handled rapid promotion extremely well. Embellishing her CV at the age of 21 was a silly thing to do, but it doesn’t negate everything she has done since. She’s not the only person in the world to have done it. She’s said she worked with a Moscow correspondent whom she worked alongside and had only spoken to socially. It’s pretty small beer.

DemeraraAbyss · 06/02/2025 09:32

Dolphinnoises · 06/02/2025 09:22

The OP, which implied BBC Media Action was a vehicle to spread DEI propaganda.

Having Googled, you mean Marianna Spring, the BBC’s Disinformation Correspondent. That’s nothing to do with Media Action, which is a charity so legally will have its own structure.

On Marianna Spring, though - she was promoted very young but I think she is a very brave reporter who has handled rapid promotion extremely well. Embellishing her CV at the age of 21 was a silly thing to do, but it doesn’t negate everything she has done since. She’s not the only person in the world to have done it. She’s said she worked with a Moscow correspondent whom she worked alongside and had only spoken to socially. It’s pretty small beer.

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Not so small beer when you are a disinformation correspondent.

Mittens67 · 06/02/2025 10:08

AlisonDonut · 06/02/2025 06:35

How many foreign kids being mutilated and sterilised would it take for you to withdraw the funding from those programmes?

And if the US aid has been so good over the years, why is the world in a worse position that prior to US aid? It seems the more they pump into projects the worse the planet gets. Maybe it is time to take stock?

None so blind as those who don't want to see.

WhyTheHate · 06/02/2025 10:59

DemeraraAbyss · 06/02/2025 08:48

But it is not independent when it relies on a single funder. It is by definition a dependent media.

Independent media is media that is not influenced by government. USAID was - until days ago - (to a large extent) independent of the US government (until it was brought under State - that was the point of folding it into State, for the executive to exert more/total control over it). Its priorities were heavily influenced by US foreign policy but were not controlled by it.

All independent media is funded by someone or something. The question is about the conditions of funding. USAID contracts usually run to 100s pages. Federal Assistance Regulations (known as FAR) also run to 100s of pages. This was not some unregulated entity operating on a whim.

I will bow out now as I have said my bit. Everyone is entitled to their view and to express their view (another thing USAID money supported) but there is sadly a lot of mis/disinformation on this thread and I encourage people to read more deeply about foreign assistance and what it has achieved over the decades.

RingoJuice · 06/02/2025 11:09

Honestly the British taxpayer should
be funding the BBC’s media charity for independent journalism. Quite outrageous that any American taxpayer funded this:

www.bbc.co.uk/mediaaction/press-release/4-feb-25

PerkingFaintly · 06/02/2025 14:00

As predicted on page 1, Musk using Twitter to spread fake news about USAID:

https://united24media.com/latest-news/elon-musk-shares-fake-video-claiming-usaid-paid-hollywood-stars-to-promote-zelenskyy-5653
Elon Musk has once again shared a fake video, this time targeting USAID, Ukraine, and Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
The billionaire, known for spreading unverified information, posted a video on his X page claiming that USAID allegedly pays celebrities to visit Ukraine and boost Zelenskyy’s popularity. The video, originally shared by an anonymous account that frequently posts pro-Trump content and criticizes Democrats, features the E! News logo and includes footage of Angelina Jolie, Sean Penn, Ben Stiller, and others who have supported Ukraine since the full-scale invasion.
However, fact-checkers confirmed that E! News never published such a video. Despite this, Musk’s post has already been viewed by more than three million people.
Ben Stiller also responded, calling the claims false and stating that the video was created by Russians.

Elon Musk Shares Fake Video Claiming USAID Paid Hollywood Stars to Promote Zelenskyy

Elon Musk shared a fake video alleging USAID funded celebrities to promote Zelenskyy, which has been refuted by the celebrities and officials.

https://united24media.com/latest-news/elon-musk-shares-fake-video-claiming-usaid-paid-hollywood-stars-to-promote-zelenskyy-5653

PerkingFaintly · 06/02/2025 14:03

For those who missed it previously, Musk has been on personal speaking terms with Putin since before the election. They have personal phone calls.

From 25 Oct 2024:
https://apnews.com/article/musk-putin-x-trump-tesla-election-russia-9cecb7cb0f23ccce49336771280ae179
Here’s a look at Musk’s contact with Putin and why it matters

Elon Musk speaks at Life Center Church in Harrisburg, Pa., Saturday, Oct. 19, 2024. (Sean Simmers/The Patriot-News via AP)

Here's a look at Musk's contact with Putin and why it matters

The Wall Street Journal reports that billionaire Elon Musk and Russian President Vladimir Putin have been in regular contact.

https://apnews.com/article/musk-putin-x-trump-tesla-election-russia-9cecb7cb0f23ccce49336771280ae179

TheUnusuallyQuerulentMxLauraBrown · 06/02/2025 14:07

SleepDeprivedElf · 05/02/2025 12:26

Shuttering USAID means taking food from starving children. That’s not hyperbole, programs help the world’s poorest people. We should be wary of doing Trump’s work for him with threads like this.

LOL.

IwantToRetire · 08/02/2025 01:42

As I said up thread, it really doesn't matter whether you like it or not, the US President does not have the right to run round like a spoilt child having a tantrum.

He or his henchman Musk do not have the right to arbitrarily file people.

So as with other EO he has been blocked by cour action

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-musks-shutdown-221918649.html

However, I do begin to wonder whether this is fact is a tactic.

Running round like a demented hampster completely ignoring the democrat process was bound to end in court challenges.

I am now wondering is this is in fact his long term goal.

Know that he will never be able to dismantly so many established departments that are integrated into the way the US runs, will be his get out when his Presidency fails.

He will say it is all the fault of the "Big State" or whatever he calls it.

Not unlike the Brexit campaign that idiots fell for actually believing crap like "oven ready deal", without thinking how and if it could be done.

And why he and Farage are in fact save from supporters anger at being lied to, is the fact that most people wont want to admit they were taken in by brazen porkie pies. So of course jump at the change to blame some unknown conspiracy - rather than their superficial numpty approach to life.

Judge blocks Trump, Musk's shutdown of USAID

Judge Carl Nichols blocked Donald Trump and Elon Musk's attempted USAID shutdown days after the American Foreign Service Association filed a lawsuit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-blocks-trump-musks-shutdown-221918649.html

RingoJuice · 08/02/2025 04:23

tbh a lot of normie Americans are angry that their taxes were going to government workers for these ridiculous projects, many of them still WFH with inflated salaries and good
healthcare plans.

Like, this is why housing in northern Virginia was crazy expensive. Who could afford that? Turns out they could. On our money.

That’s the vibe I’m getting.

AlisonDonut · 08/02/2025 08:10

I am guessing he knows that there will be legal blocks, his legal team will have predicted this.

The main thing is to get it out into the public eye, what the tax dollars are being spent on.

I mean, medically transitioning and experimenting including operations on animals? And yet the animal rights activists will say nothing. This is barbarism. Having to defend this sort of thing in court brings all the sunlight to the issue.

DemeraraAbyss · 08/02/2025 09:34

Running round like a demented hampster completely ignoring the democrat process was bound to end in court challenges.

The President was elected in a democratic process, the courts were not. If anything it is the judges ignoring the democratic process.

Whyherewego · 08/02/2025 09:37

LGBTQI+ is not just a trans thing. There's countries where it's illegal to be gay and people are persecuted for this. Why shouldn't those people be supported

Chersfrozenface · 08/02/2025 09:40

Whyherewego · 08/02/2025 09:37

LGBTQI+ is not just a trans thing. There's countries where it's illegal to be gay and people are persecuted for this. Why shouldn't those people be supported

Then confine the activities to supporting LGB i.e. sexuality.

Moglet4 · 08/02/2025 09:42

What exactly in the list you’ve given do you object to?

SlapTheMelon · 08/02/2025 09:48

SleepDeprivedElf · 05/02/2025 12:26

Shuttering USAID means taking food from starving children. That’s not hyperbole, programs help the world’s poorest people. We should be wary of doing Trump’s work for him with threads like this.

People always say America needs to mind their own business. When they do, the world complains.
My government is corrupt as fuck. No matter how much money they get from international aid when it gets to the poor, it's a trickle.

YankeeDad · 08/02/2025 11:15

Chersfrozenface · 05/02/2025 11:38

So that's why the Trump administration had gone for USAID.

Taking aim at gender identity ideology and propaganda.

One thing it is getting right.

This is all about showing his base that he is putting America First by stopping funding for all of those filthy, dirty, foreign, brown-skinned un-American "others". It is probably also indirectly about bringing in more money for his hotels: I am sure that any foreign leader who is willing to bend the knee and bring a large entourage of minions to stay at Trump Tower will find that their favourite aid programme now qualifies for an "exception".

The trans thing is a pretext. As others have posted, he could have stopped that funding without taking steps to shut the whole thing down.

In the medium term, aside from reducing US power and prestige in the world, this will harm US people as well. For example, cuts to programmes such as the AIDS treatment and research in Africa will increase the amount of people dying, and it will also increase the infection rates everywhere else, including in the USA. But of course he will again blame the "others" for that.

HPFA · 08/02/2025 11:21

DemeraraAbyss · 08/02/2025 09:34

Running round like a demented hampster completely ignoring the democrat process was bound to end in court challenges.

The President was elected in a democratic process, the courts were not. If anything it is the judges ignoring the democratic process.

Being elected and allowed to ignore the rule of law is called "elected dictatorship".

The qualifier will be dropped soon enough.

IwantToRetire · 08/02/2025 19:00

DemeraraAbyss · 08/02/2025 09:34

Running round like a demented hampster completely ignoring the democrat process was bound to end in court challenges.

The President was elected in a democratic process, the courts were not. If anything it is the judges ignoring the democratic process.

All EO can be challenged by Congress.

And as I keep saying they way they are implementing this is totally in breach of employment law.

Little anecdotes about this or that bit of misuse of federal funding is not the point.

Shocking that so few seem to think other people's employment rights matter.

Added to which in delegating the work to a man who is not elected, who has bought in staff from his private company to go through personnel records AND - believe it or not, records of companies Musk is in commercial competition with.

If this wasn't the US people would be pissing themselves laughing at someone who clearly has not idea of the function of Government.

He is meant to be the President of the entire country. Not some dictator trying to put into law things that are his personal opinion. ie not being allowed to criticise christianity.

The most remarkable thing about this is that if someone made this as a film using heavy satire to show that the US has become so dumbed down it accepts someone abusing their position as President to act like a tyrant, and carry out personal vendettas people would say it will never happen.

And to think a lot of this lunacy is being acted out by descendents of all those people who left Europe because they despise autocratic monarchs and not having the right to practice their form of religion.

Shortshriftandlethal · 08/02/2025 19:24

I imagine that once this 'aid' department has been subsumed into the State department, or whatever it is.....then the list of projects that are funded will be gone through with a fine comb and decisions will be made, afresh, about what to continue to fund, and what not to.

The U.S has been funding highly ideological projects of all kinds for many years -effectively exporting a whole host of U.S created maladies and conditions and preferences around the world - into places in which they didn't formerly exist - at tax payer's expense.

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