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USAID - American agency has been funding trans propaganda projects around the globe

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Herewegoagain29 · 05/02/2025 11:32

USA ID - the US agency for industrial developement has been suspended by the Trump administration and now that there is scrutiny over what it has been spending the money on. It has a 30 billion dollar budget and I'm sure it may do some good sometimes with the money but it seems like it was ideologically captured by trans ideology under the influence of the US large corperations and pharmaceutical companies.

Some of it's recent funding -
$1.5 million grant to Serbian 'Groupa Izadji' 'Group comeout' to promote LGBTQ workplace practices
£30 million to research HIV transmission among transgender individuals inSouth Africa
Transgender 'healthcare initiatives' in Vietnam and India
$25,000 for and Opera in Colombia to promote transgender representation in the arts
$32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru.

Looking closer to home, it turns out Stonewall recieves funding from them -"National LGBTQ+ charity Stonewall also said the funding pause would affect its work in eastern Europe and the Caucasus'

BBC Media action also receives funding.
'The BBC's international charity BBC Media Action, which is funded by external grants and voluntary contributions, receives funding from USAID. According to a 2024 report, USAID donated $3.23m (£2.6m), making it the charity's second-largest donor that financial year.
It funds a range of projects in 30 countries and 50 languages across the world,
The charity, which is celebrating its 25th anniversary, says its work is 'building stronger democracies', making a 'safer, more habitable planet' and creating 'more inclusive societies' - especially for the disabled and LGBTQI+ people.'

We know how much pro-trans propaganda the BBC pumps out here but it is depressing to think that it is being beamed into 30 other countries with a clear agenda to promote trans ideology.
However laudable the goals of 'spreading Democracy' are, it is a very Imperialist view and I do not want to fund the empowerment of 'transwoman' in say India to start marching into women's bathrooms there or taking over their sports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14359179/Donald-Trump-Elon-Musks-USAID-closure-hit-BBC-charity.html

https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/trump-s-foreign-aid-pause-expected-to-impact-funding-for-uk-charities.html

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VrbzaMeiVOg

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Chersfrozenface · 05/02/2025 11:38

So that's why the Trump administration had gone for USAID.

Taking aim at gender identity ideology and propaganda.

One thing it is getting right.

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 11:59

No this is not why the Trump administration has gone for shutting down USAID completely.

This the PR the Trump administration is using to get us to accept it shutting down USAID completely – and not just accept it, cheer it on.

The administration could have just closed all trans programmes, or all DEI programmes – as it has in, say, the US military, without disbanding the US military (funny that).

Meanwhile, USAID has been doing things like supporting women in Afghanistan and feeding refugees in Gaza. That will all stop.

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 12:09

By the way, the Trump administration did tell us in advance that they planned to use PR to demonise institutions and civil servants before shutting down services.

So expect to see a lot of this.

Very informative article here:

Inside Musk’s Aggressive Incursion Into the Federal Government
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/musk-federal-government.html?smid=url-share

Russell T. Vought, who served in Mr. Trump’s first administration and is his choice again to lead the Office of Management and Budget, has spoken openly about the Trump team’s plans for dismantling civil service.
“We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected,” Mr. Vought said in a 2023 speech. “When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains.”

Mr. Musk, who pushed Mr. Vought for the budget office role, for which he is awaiting Senate confirmation, has echoed that rhetoric, portraying career civil servants and the agencies they work for as enemies.
[...]
Mr. Musk used the same tactic during his 2022 takeover of Twitter, in which he depicted the company’s previous management as malicious and many of its workers as inept and oppositional to his goals. In firing Twitter executives “for cause” and withholding their exit packages, Mr. Musk accused some of them of corruption and attacked them personally in public posts.

(Share token can be found on this thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5258416-trumpmusk-folie-a-deux-trump-thread-137?page=17 )

“Put them in trauma”: Inside a key MAGA leader’s plans for a new Trump agenda

In private speeches, Russell Vought laid out plans to use armed forces to quell any domestic “riots.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/10/russell-vought-maga-2024-put-them-in-trauma-propublica/

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 12:11

Oh sorry, I picked up the wrong link.
Should be:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/musk-federal-government.html?smid=url-share

SleepDeprivedElf · 05/02/2025 12:26

Shuttering USAID means taking food from starving children. That’s not hyperbole, programs help the world’s poorest people. We should be wary of doing Trump’s work for him with threads like this.

Chersfrozenface · 05/02/2025 12:52

SleepDeprivedElf · 05/02/2025 12:26

Shuttering USAID means taking food from starving children. That’s not hyperbole, programs help the world’s poorest people. We should be wary of doing Trump’s work for him with threads like this.

If the department had stuck to just actual aid of that kind instead of ideological propaganda, that would have been much better.

Sadly, tendentious idiocy often has sad consequences.

Deljay · 05/02/2025 12:55

Many many children will die because of this. Many women will die.

This is nothing to do with womens rights. You have lost the plot.

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 13:01

So, Trump could have ordered it to stop those particular programmes.

That's not what's happened.

The only thing that's an actual "consequence" here – rather than a part of the longstanding MAGA plan – is people rushing to cheer the closure of the whole organisation and its programmes which keep women alive.

And I agree that is very sad.

Chersfrozenface · 05/02/2025 13:08

So, Trump could have ordered it to stop those particular programmes.

That would indeed have been better.

We will have to see what are the "mission-critical functions, core leadership and specially designated programs" where directly employed staff will be kept on. The announcement about that will be at 20.00 GMT tomorrow.

LifeExperience · 05/02/2025 13:15

USAID isn't going away. It's been stopped temporarily while forensic accountants figure out where all the money went. When it is stood up again it will be under the oversight of the Secretary of State where it belongs.

lcakethereforeIam · 05/02/2025 13:31

I hope it'll be restructured to get rid of waste, graft, luxury beliefs and vanity projects. Target the money to be more effective. In the interim without USAid money to bail them out perhaps the Governments of the countries affected can look at their own waste, graft, luxury beliefs and vanity projects and target their money more effectively.

But I agree, there will be people, mostly women and children, whose lives may be devastated by this. I hope it's turned round quickly.

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 13:35

Can't post screenshots at the moment of course, but just as an example if you cllck on a link which at the moment Google says reads:

"Afghanistan | U.S. Agency for International Development

U.S. Agency for International Development (.gov)
https://www.usaid.gov › afghanistan

USAID remains committed to the people of Afghanistan despite these unprecedented challenges. With more than two dozen active awards, our work is focused on ..."

Then what you get is this:
On Friday, February 7, 2025, at 11:59 pm (EST) all USAID direct hire personnel will be placed on administrative leave globally, with the exception of designated personnel responsible for mission-critical functions, core leadership and specially designated programs. Essential personnel expected to continue working will be informed by Agency leadership by Thursday, February 6, at 3:00pm (EST).
For USAID personnel currently posted outside the United States, the Agency, in coordination with missions and the Department of State, is currently preparing a plan, in accordance with all applicable requirements and laws, under which the Agency would arrange and pay for return travel to the United States within 30 days and provide for the termination of PSC and ISC contracts that are not determined to be essential. The Agency will consider case-by-case exceptions and return travel extensions based on personal or family hardship, mobility or safety concerns, or other reasons. For example, the Agency will consider exceptions based on the timing of dependents’ school term, personal or familial medical needs, pregnancy, and other reasons. Further guidance on how to request an exception will be forthcoming.
Thank you for your service.

This is not how you bring in forensic accountants.

U.S. Agency for International Development

https://www.usaid.gov/afghanistan

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 13:36

Mind you it is very characteristic of Trump, who repeatedly sets fire to things so he can then play the hero rescuing people from the fire. Hmm

TempestTost · 05/02/2025 13:41

A lot of these kinds of large organizations, while they do some good work, waste prodigious amounts on money and function as a way to funnel money not only into certain ideological areas, but to certain groups and people. It's what's happened to Amnesty International, for example.

We'll have to see what announcements come out about how they are going to manage the actual worthwhile work they did, but it shouldn't be a surprise, nor is it a bad thing, if organizations like this come under significant scrutiny. They aren't benign groups that have become confused, they are actually spending huge amounts of money that are meant to help people on things that do not help people.

International aid is hugely fucked up, they operate like corrupted religious organizations.

Beowulfa · 05/02/2025 13:43

Perhaps if the organisation had focussed on core fundamentals like sanitation, education, agriculture, admin infrastructure etc they could have rigteously defended the expenditure to Chuck Taxpayer. Nobody can justify LGBTQ@! opera with a straight face.

Once again, the most vulnerable lose out to middle class luxury beliefs.

Herewegoagain29 · 05/02/2025 13:51

The president of El Salvador Nyab Bukeli described it as this -

Most governments don’t want USAID funds flowing into their countries because they understand where much of that money actually ends up. While marketed as support for development, democracy, and human rights, the majority of these funds are funneled into opposition groups, NGOs with political agendas, and destabilizing movements. At best, maybe 10% of the money reaches real projects that help people in need (there are such cases), but the rest is used to fuel dissent, finance protests, and undermine administrations that refuse to align with the globalist agenda. Cutting this so-called aid isn’t just beneficial for the United States; it’s also a big win for the rest of the world.

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1886059275174506850

They funded gain of function research in the Wuhan Lab through Eco Health alliance, There is a dispute about the amount but their statement does show
that funding went there:

But as the forthcoming GAO report will show, the total amount of grant funding from NIH and USAID to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for the projects in question from 2014 to 2021 amounted to less than $1.3 million – a fraction of the amount claimed by CBS News.

https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2023/03/ecohealth-alliance-statement-correcting-inaccuracies-in-cbs-news-reporting

James Lee claims they were exposed in the mid 2000's for building a fake Cuban twitter called ZunZunnio to feed anti government sentiment, it was eventually banned.

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It's like all these old institutions they can go a bit rogue over time and forget their origional purpose. USAID has not been perminantly closed, I believe and hopefully the good projects that they run will be re-instated quickly but what is wrong with investigating whether the money is used well?

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Imicola · 05/02/2025 13:54

PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2025 11:59

No this is not why the Trump administration has gone for shutting down USAID completely.

This the PR the Trump administration is using to get us to accept it shutting down USAID completely – and not just accept it, cheer it on.

The administration could have just closed all trans programmes, or all DEI programmes – as it has in, say, the US military, without disbanding the US military (funny that).

Meanwhile, USAID has been doing things like supporting women in Afghanistan and feeding refugees in Gaza. That will all stop.

Yes, this. And this move will have significant repercussions for international development globally. People will die as a direct result, and this will disproportionately affect women and children. Trump and Musk are disgusting dick swinging vandals.

Deljay · 05/02/2025 13:56

@Herewegoagain29 "what is wrong with investigating whether the money is used well?"

You can do that without killing people. Done like this, many people will die. Real people. It's not a joke or a game or a political move. A person just like you, with hopes for the future and worries and dreams, is going to kneel down tomorrow over the corpse of their baby because the medicine she needed is locked in a box on the orders of Elon Musk. That woman on her knees is just like you. Her grief is boundless.

I'm with her. You're with him. That's who you are. Face it.

Imicola · 05/02/2025 14:03

Deljay · 05/02/2025 13:56

@Herewegoagain29 "what is wrong with investigating whether the money is used well?"

You can do that without killing people. Done like this, many people will die. Real people. It's not a joke or a game or a political move. A person just like you, with hopes for the future and worries and dreams, is going to kneel down tomorrow over the corpse of their baby because the medicine she needed is locked in a box on the orders of Elon Musk. That woman on her knees is just like you. Her grief is boundless.

I'm with her. You're with him. That's who you are. Face it.

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Indeed, this is done frequently when governments change or budgets shrink, and programmes can be closed. What they are doing now and the way they are doing it is morally bankrupt, dangerous and blinkered.

GrumpyPanda · 05/02/2025 14:06

LifeExperience · 05/02/2025 13:15

USAID isn't going away. It's been stopped temporarily while forensic accountants figure out where all the money went. When it is stood up again it will be under the oversight of the Secretary of State where it belongs.

"Forensic accountants." Bwahahaha. Are you talking about the baby-faced boys barely out of high school who've been documented as leading the Muskovite storm troops at AID?

WandaSiri · 05/02/2025 15:15

I'd be surprised if USAID fund projects on a daily basis, wouldn't they shell out for a financial year, or quarterly, or something? I wouldn't have thought any organisation will be starved of cash immediately. Am I wrong about that?
If the review drags on, or if after the review the genuine, worthwhile projects are cancelled, that's another matter.

SleepDeprivedElf · 05/02/2025 15:20

Are you joking? Yes the shutdown has been immediate. There’s supposedly exemptions for ‘life-saving’ aid but in practice there’s a lot of confusion over what that entails and crucial stocks of food and medicine are already being held up:

www.nbcnews.com/news/politics-news/trump-usaid-upheaval-paralyzing-global-delivery-food-medicine-rcna190565

WandaSiri · 05/02/2025 15:52

No, I wasn't joking but I was talking about cash for projects and organisations. The ideological programmes should have been shut down or phased out and humanitarian relief programmes allowed to continue, even if it was with emergency funding, while the review takes place.
That's my opinion as a non-US citizen.

Herewegoagain29 · 05/02/2025 16:34

The point I was making was that an unelected organisation in the US with billions of dollars of funding is choosing to fund trans organisations around the world with a view to promote and popularise the idea of trans, and to strengthen the vioces of transactivists to put pressure on governments to influence pro - trans policy. They are funding advocacy groups to the detriment of women and girls.

Here is a group that they fund in Sweden, RFSL:

The international department is currently the biggest unit at RFSL, and our work at RFSL with international issues is extensive. We cooperate with LGBTQI organisations in East Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe, and we organise trainings for LGBTQI activists from all over the globe. RFSL also works continually with political advocacy and opinion making on several levels, all the way from the UN to the local level in Sweden.

https://www.rfsl.se/en/about-us/our-work-at-rfsl/

and one in Latin America:

We’re looking to strengthen local LGBTQI+ organizations to enhance their capacity,”

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/11/02/usaid-highlights-work-to-promote-lgbtq-intersex-rights-in-latin-america-caribbean/

I wasn't looking for a discussion on the Trump politics side of things but thinking that wondering why they were doing it - their remit is to open up new markets for American trade so it stands to reason it is pharmacutical companies wanting to open up clinics worldwide that is the motivation.

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DeanElderberry · 05/02/2025 16:45

I have always been surprised at the amount of money being spent on this stuff in Ireland, and wondered was it being subsidised by our huge Pharma industry. Maybe some of it was international aid.