Horrifying Republican response to Bishop's sermon

[JessaWoo]

These are tweets from Matt Walsh on X about Bishop Marian Budde and her sermon earlier today in Washington, attacking her womanhood and ability in a sexist and ageist tirade. It seems the clarion call has gone out to the rest of the Trump X minions, as they are all tweeting the same sentiments - including Kellie-Jay Keen and Donald Trump Jnr. Rep. Mike Collins całłed for her deportation, although she is American. Do you still support Trump after this?

“A liberal woman over the age of 50 with a lesbian haircut is guaranteed to support the most evil ideas and policies that mankind has ever conceived.”

“Just take one look at this witch and you know everything you need to know about her, even before she starts talking.”

“Of course this grotesque display is coming from a female “priest.” You will only ever hear heresy and inanity from someone whose whole existence is blasphemous.”

And another tweet from Bo Loudon: “🚨BREAKING: A bishop at the National Cathedrol just urged President Trump to protect transgender children and not deport illegal aliens because "they're not criminals."

Pure class from President Trump as he sat through this despicable politicization of the prayer service.”

Speech text:
““In the Name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now,” Budde stated. “There are gay, lesbian, and transgender children in Democratic, Republican and independent families. Some who fear for their lives.

”The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meat-packing plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens, or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals.”

Budde asked Trump “to have mercy” on people “in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away and that you help those who are fleeing warzones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here.

“Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land,” she continued. “May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love, and walk humbly with each other and our God.”

Earlier in her message, Budde stressed the importance of unity, of respectfully disagreeing with one another, but also expressed concern over what she called “the culture of contempt” and feared “the loss of equality” for some who lose in political debates.

What a horrible, divisive message this is! 🙄 Personally, I think Budde's message is courageous and beautiful, and clearly deeply Christian at its core.

I'm an autistic woman who had what was then called body dismorphia but now called gender dysphoria as a teen. Thankfully back in the stoneage the only treatment was watchful waiting otherwise I would be one of those poor woman who come to realise they've been sold a lie too late.
I was lucky enough to have a wonderful psychiatrist and inpatient care that allowed me to heal from the trauma that was the route cause of my delusional thinking and come to terms with my body and the changes to it that I was enduring, and most importantly the abuse I had suffered because of it.
I was in group therapy with many other teens who had the same diagnosis, some "trans", some with anorexia others bulimia basically all forms of body dismorphia. Out of my group all but 2 had a full recovery 1 girl eventually died from her anorexia and 1 boy ended up surgically transitioning he (how he refers to himself) is very clear that the changes he made to his body in no way changes his sex they just make him feel better in himself, we have been friends for over 40 years and he's just as horrified by the gender ideology that's being pushed as I am.
I suspect that you are picking up on the anger I feel about the ridiculous dangerous bs being pushed by gender ideologs and misplacing it onto those who truly believe themselves to be the wrong sex. I hold no hostility towards the later group as I know what it is to be in the grip of such delusions and how powerful they can be without everyone affirming the. I wish that each and every child who believes themselves to be trans could get the same level of care and quality of therapy as my cohort did.I hold everyone who stands between them and that care in utter contempt!
I hope that settles your ridiculous framing of my posts as the nonsense that they are @izimbra

"Anyone who is frightened should be shown compassion".

That's what she was asking for. Thank you for acknowledging that this is morally acceptable.

"but compassion doesn't always mean giving people what they want"

All she asked for was compassion and mercy. That's all.

"and it doesn't mean ignoring other groups of people that are also frightened"

There are vast numbers of people who are scared of black men, because black men are over represented in the crime statistics, for a whole host of complex reasons. Do you think this justifies white people phoning the police when they see a black man walking past their house in a white neighbourhood? By your reasoning the fact that they feel frightened, and can justify it by pointing to black men being over represented in the crime statistics means that not only is this a reasonable response, but that there is an argument for racial segregation of communities. To promote feelings of safety among the white community who are frightened of black crime.

"Now how about you humour me and give me a reasoned argument explaining how redefining the sex-class of women to allow in any male who identifies as a woman is a feminist win. Or maybe you don't believe this?"

I'm not arguing for a 'feminist win'. I think the whole issue is a a storm in a teacup, and that if social media didn't exist you'd likely not even know transgender people even exist. I think you've taken it on like some new religion - you feel you're part of a special movement, part of a club, fighting for women's rights, when in fact in the grand scheme of things, if you'd devoted a tenth of the anger and energy you've devoted to decrying transgenderism into lobbying government to address inadequate public transport outside large cities, or shit maternity care, or addressing women's housing needs, you'd have had a vastly bigger impact on women's safety and quality of life.

I’m referring to the fact your post earlier in the thread said this:

It would if transgender women made up 50% of the population.
However they only make up at most 0.3% of the population.

In response to this:

"The idea that transwomen should be classified as female does present an enormous problem and threat to the provision of single sex services"

So you don’t think 0.3% poses a problem. I pointed out how that 0.3% impacts millions of women directly. You can read it again on page 11 if you like. You have ignored it thus far.

So my question is how many women being negatively affected by males will it take for you to consider it to be a problem?

So glad you came through that

"So you don’t think 0.3% poses a problem. I pointed out how that 0.3% impacts millions of women directly. You can read it again on page 11 if you like. You have ignored it thus far."

No, I don't believe 0.3% of the population being transgender poses a problem to millions of women.

And I pointed out how that isn’t true.

But failing that, you haven’t answered the question: how many women do need to be negatively affected by that 0.3% before you DO think it poses a problem?

I actually think this is one most don't really understand. It's not just 'DEI', it's 'DEIA' - Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility. This covers not just race, but equity of the sexes and disability, among others. Its scrapping is bad news for women and those with disabilities.

I have a disability that impedes my walking. I once had a position in a two-storied building that only had stairs. I had no way of accessing the upper level at all. My organisation furnished me with an office on the lower level and made sure meetings came to me rather than the other way around, but I still had difficulties there. In the current US climate, I doubt they would be compelled to do even that - they would just pass on to the next candidate.

Well for a start, I'm going to ignore your rude insinuations because they really aren't relevant and you know nothing about me.

If you cannot define the word woman than you cannot define woman's rights. So you are fighting for people's rights, not women's rights. Are there no situations in which you feel women need separate provision to men?

No, I don't believe 0.3% of the population being transgender poses a problem to millions of women.

One bad apple….

An amendment has been introduced seeking to amend the Constitution and allow Trump a third term. Not a dictator? 🙄

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So just to be clear - the plea to show mercy and compassion to frightened transgender individuals that this thread OP was about - you're in support of that?

Because so am I.

I'm glad therapy has given you happiness and peace.

I know two parents who have supported their child's transition - their children are now transgender adults living decent lives. I'm going to guess you think these parents are probably misguided, or maybe stupid. Or maybe evil? And you believe you have a better understanding and knowledge of their child's experience than they do or than their child does. You feel your own experience in therapy gives you the authority in this area?

Ok.

Do you spend a lot of time in online anti-trans groups accusing people like me of supporting child abuse?

No. He's just led by Russian bots like most people.

The horrible nasty truth @AliceNutterWasAWoman is that even without therapy about 75% of teens grow out of gender dysphoria with good quality therapy it's between 80 and 98% who grow out of it.
Yet if you give kids who suffer these delusions puberty blockers it locks in the gender dysphoria by permanently preventing the brain from maturing 98% go on to cross sex hormones.
When I look at the number of autistic children who are being pushed down this pathway (33% of gids patients vs 4% of the general population) I see this as a eugenics programme but in reality it's a systematic pushing of gender ideology onto all children and the vulnerable falling for it, they like women and girls are just collateral damage on the alter of gender ideology.
Sorry about the rant am stuck fighting this crap in Scotland 🤬

I think you should be quoting Hoardasurass here?

@legalimmigrant

Tough shit, they created the situation where a vast majority of Americans preferred Trump. They can suck it up now, they're only -.3% so it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, does it?

You really think that the "vast majority" of US voters preferred Trump because of transsexuals? So, no thought for:

• the border
• wars
• globalism
• just having Democrats out
• cost of living
• healthcare
• ....

Just transsexuals?

@TheCourseOfTheRiverChanged

I have a sneaking suspicion you're right.
I'm (reluctantly) impressed with how a man who inherited such wealth is able to position himself as downtrodden, under the heel of the elites.
People on this thread have described Bishop Budde as "speaking truth to power" and it makes sense to see it that way from one perspective.
But if you don't share Bishop Budde's wealth, status, education and cultural capital the optics of this are very different. People whose families and communities have been disparaged and disrespected by the authorities of the mainstream Church for generations will see Trump being chastised and unable to speak up to defend himself in that service.

No worries, ranting is understandable. I have read 'The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht', so I know what you are going through up there. Strong recommend for 'Time to Think' by Newsnight journalist Hannah Barnes for anyone who is lurking and wants to know more about what went on at the Tavistock GIDS clinic

Sorry, that posted accidentally. I meant to add: I'm not sure what you actually mean here. Are you suggesting that Trump was unable to defend himself in that setting so the Bishop was wrong to direct her sermon towards him? And that she has wealth and power herself?

Trump isn't under the heel of the elites. He is the elite. That is part of his grift.

Who are you talking to me or @AliceNutterWasAWoman ?

Hey @izimbra I'm going to bed. I'll pick it up in the morning if you answer my question.

Well for one he has signed a document getting rid of all the diversity laws that guarantee that you can not be discriminated against .

What document is this?

Not comparable. Cut it out.

Would add irreversible damage by abigale shreiver(sp) to that list

Do you think this justifies white people phoning the police when they see a black man walking past their house in a white neighbourhood?

Not relevant. Trump's EO restored fairness in sports through its effect on Title IX and put male prisoners in the male estate where they should be. Comparing women's insistence on sex-based rights to racism is an extremely dishonest, bad faith, argument.

It wasn't a lecture. It wasn't even a lengthy sermon. It was 3 minutes max. It was a plea to the President to be merciful to those feeling afraid. The sort of thing I'd expect from a Christian.

I'm disgusted at the hatred and vitriol heaped on Bishop Mariann Budde. But it's the sort of thing I expect from President Trump and his acolytes.