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AGP

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niadainud · 09/12/2024 17:44

Ugh.

I was on the tube the other day sitting next to a "trans-woman". (Inverted commas as there was nothing remotely womanly about him, other than that he was wearing a skirt and knee-high boots.)

He was staring intently at his phone the whole time without typing or scrolling and as I glanced over I happened to notice he was looking at a list including such things as "delaying orgasm" and "improving build-up to orgasm". I ended up feeling like I had been unwillingly involved in his sordid little obsessive fantasy, and I still feel slightly queasy about it several days later.

Then to top it off, a (male, able-bodied) "friend" announced that he didn't see any reason why everyone (i.e. men) shouldn't use women's toilets and disabled toilets. And why don't people make a fuss about trans-men using men's toilets?

I sincerely wish all these men would just fuck off and stop encroaching into women's physical and metaphysical spaces.

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Justwrong68 · 11/12/2024 16:49

It's age old histrionic behaviour. If they don't make you a part of the fetish then it doesn't exist

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niadainud · 11/12/2024 17:37

Christinapple · 10/12/2024 18:50

This board has thread after thread about alleged sightings of what you are describing. Almost as if they are made up to rage bait and stir up transphobia?

This board has thread after thread about alleged sightings of what I am describing. Almost as if there are a lot of men out their indulging their AGP proclivities.

Generally many consistent reports of something make it more likely to be true, not less.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 12/12/2024 01:31

Bannedontherun · 11/12/2024 00:24

@BonfireLady thanks so much for your perspective. I picked up on some of what you say in his various interviews. And thought i ought to read his book. He tells us to bin his origional book as “too polite”

To be fair to him his real life professional experience is in the field of paraphilia’s at the Portland. And it is there that he came across the whole trans thing.

I suspect he has developed theories as a psychiatrist based on his interactions with others with a GC views, beyond what he did, and has as far as i can ascertain quite a lot of behind the scenes dialogue with Genspect, and the like. for eg.

I am at the moment trying to get a better understanding of AGP, other paraphilia conditions, how they interact, overlap and the relationship to that with sex offending. Including vouyerism and sexual exposure, which of course is part of our main complaint vis a vis women only spaces.

Any other book recommendations would be much appreciated

I read two books that gave me a great insight into the topic, they were written by two women whose husbands decided they were no longer men:

Sex Changes: A Memoir of Marriage, Gender, and Moving On - Christine Benvenuto

18 Months: A Memoir of a Marriage Lost to Gender Identity - Shannon Thrace

Bannedontherun · 12/12/2024 09:55

@UtopiaPlanitia Thanks

ButterflyHatched · 12/12/2024 10:05

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/12/2024 15:31

What experiences are those? Most of FWR don't think they are actually related to gender-confused children either, if you mean the ones mentioned in the OP.

Glad we agree.

ButterflyHatched · 12/12/2024 10:08

BonfireLady · 11/12/2024 15:31

Indeed. They are different things.

(Although I'm not convinced anyone is aspiring to be boring or invisible. Presumably you mean "average, everyday, like everyone else")

Anyway, this screenshot helps make sense of it.

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Yup. Just a boring ordinary life without crushing gender dysphoria. That's it. That's all I ever wanted.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 12/12/2024 11:38