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BBC: Rape centre breaks away from charity in row over gender [Glasgow]

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Tiredofthisnonsense · 24/10/2024 10:49

Some good news for once:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7w322230go

From the article:

"A rape support centre in Glasgow has broken away from the supervision of the umbrella charity Rape Crisis Scotland in a row over gender.
Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis said its priority was to provide a single-sex service by an "all-female workforce" - and this was "at odds" with the charity's priorities."

A woman with dark hair, a grey t-shirt and jeans sits on a bed with her head in her hands

Glasgow rape centre breaks away from charity in row over gender

The centre in Glasgow said it only wanted to employ women, but this was "at odds" with Rape Crisis Scotland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz7w322230go

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Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 25/10/2024 11:48

The trans movement is massively funded by governments and big business. Why won’t they fund trans-only services?

Women’s services are a magnet for male predators as well as males seeking validation. That’s why they have to be genuinely single sex.

larklane17 · 26/10/2024 12:23

It is a matter of national shame that women survivors of sexual violence are asked to sacrifice their privacy so that a small group of men feel comfortable
Well said Susan Dalgety. Thank you.

highame · 26/10/2024 13:05

A little bit of digging to give GCRC a boost. Good for them

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2024 01:36

Scots rape crisis centre founder urges other groups to restore single-sex services for female victims

A woman who helped create Scotland’s rape crisis movement is urging 16 other centres to follow Glasgow’s lead by restoring single sex services for traumatised female assault victims. Rosemary Whyte, who co-founded the country’s first centre in Glasgow in 1978, hailed the “brave and principled” decision by Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis (GCRC) to return to single sex support.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scots-rape-crisis-centre-founder-33976631

Scots rape crisis centre founder urges others to restore single-sex services

Rosemary Whyte, who co-founded the country’s first centre in Glasgow in 1978, hailed the “brave and principled” decision by Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis (GCRC) to return to single-sex support.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scots-rape-crisis-centre-founder-33976631

IwantToRetire · 28/10/2024 01:43

Women in Scotland are being put in danger because self-ID policy is still being pushed by SNP ministers, public bodies and charities, according to Tory leadership frontrunner Kemi Badenoch.

The former equalities minister launched a strongly worded attack on the ‘dangerous’ approach still being taken by the Scottish Government and said gender self-ID must be removed from policy-making.

She accused national charity Rape Crisis Scotland (RCS) of a ‘muddled’ understanding of the law after a rape support centre in Glasgow severed ties with it because it wanted to provide a single-sex service staffed by an all-female workforce.

She also claimed that people are trying to push forward their own ‘political agenda’ in such organisations.

Ms Badenoch said: ‘This issue with Rape Crisis Scotland is an example of what happens when people do not actually look at what the law says and start bringing in policy that is derived from campaign groups.

‘Many of the campaign groups try to rewrite policy that is not what the law says and I think that Rape Crisis Scotland got very muddled in its understanding of what provisions it needed to provide.

‘There are a lot of people who have gone into these organisations not to serve the women but to deal with their own political agenda or to push forward their own political campaigning...We need to get the politics out of a lot of service provision.’

She added: ‘We need to get the concept of self-ID out of a lot of public policy-making where people think that is what the law is. That is how we ended up with the Isla Bryson case, where we had a rapist going into a women’s prison.

‘It is very dangerous, it is bad for women...I’m actually quite worried we have policy-makers who don’t understand.’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14008407/SNP-failed-women-Kemi-Badenochs-warning-dangerous-gender-self-ID-agenda-peddled-ministers.html

Kemi Badenoch: SNP has failed women

Women in Scotland are being put in danger because self-ID policy is still being pushed by SNP ministers, public bodies and charities, according to Tory leadership frontrunner Kemi Badenoch.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14008407/SNP-failed-women-Kemi-Badenochs-warning-dangerous-gender-self-ID-agenda-peddled-ministers.html

IwantToRetire · 07/11/2024 01:15

Statement on the Glasgow Rape Crisis Centre Exclusion of trans women - NUS Scotland

We stand in solidarity with trans women across Glasgow and condemn the disaffiliation of Glasgow Rape Crisis from Rape Crisis Scotland and their move toward trans-exclusion. The move to exclude trans women from the service is dangerous and leaves trans women without key support needed within the city.

Statistics show that almost 1 in 2 trans people experience sexual assault, according to the US National Centre for transgender equality (the UK government doesn’t collect statistics on transgender victims of sexual violence), and at a time when healthcare, legal and community support for trans individuals is increasingly under attack these services are more important than ever.

According to NUS research, 68% of students have experienced some form of sexual harassment during their time at university, meaning that trans students are some of those most vulnerable in our community. We are working across Glasgow and with NUS to provide much needed resourcing and support in this space and will continue to update on this project.

Victim-survivors are already facing multiple challenges when using this service and Glasgow Rape Crisis statement has served to only further the confusion and distress of those who need support the most. We would ask that other services across Scotland do not follow suit and that the wider Rape Crisis Scotland organisation moves to provide these much-needed services for trans women and girls within Glasgow.

After constant attacks on the trans community, this is a further call to action for all students and student leaders across Glasgow to stand in solidarity with our trans brothers and sisters and prevent further harm to the trans community here in Glasgow.

https://www.nus-scotland.org.uk/statement_on_the_glasgow_rape_crisis_centre_exclusion_of

FallinUltra · 07/11/2024 02:23

Innumerate idiots. They cite a US figure that 50% of trans identified people are sexually assaulted, then cite a figure that the same is true of 68% of students. They conclude from this that trans students are some of the most vulnerable in “our community”.

Those figures have nothing to do with each other, and could just as well have been used to claim trans identified students are actually safer than other students.

Anyway, if there is not enough support services for sexually assaulted men, I suggest they get their act together and start campaigning for more.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 07/11/2024 09:33

Of course it's written by a man and a Greens activist 🙄.

INeedAPensieve · 07/11/2024 09:52

I'm actually shaking with rage reading that statement. How. Fucking. Dare. They.

SET UP YOUR OWN CRISIS CENTRE LEAVE WOMEN ALONE

Also, your statistics are shite and completely untrue.

viques · 07/11/2024 13:18

FallinUltra · 07/11/2024 02:23

Innumerate idiots. They cite a US figure that 50% of trans identified people are sexually assaulted, then cite a figure that the same is true of 68% of students. They conclude from this that trans students are some of the most vulnerable in “our community”.

Those figures have nothing to do with each other, and could just as well have been used to claim trans identified students are actually safer than other students.

Anyway, if there is not enough support services for sexually assaulted men, I suggest they get their act together and start campaigning for more.

Exactly this.

larklane17 · 07/11/2024 15:40

Why aren't trans activists raising funds for dedicated provision with appropriately trained support? Where's all their charity fund raisers for trans people?

Or is it that they just like gobbing off from behind their keyboards about hijacking women's services, as it requires sod all effort, but feeds their misogyny?

UtopiaPlanitia · 07/11/2024 15:53

Trans activism gets a lot of money donated from governments, corporations and wealthy individuals so I fail to see why activists setting up networks of services that cater to this demographic would be impossible.

Women managed to create their own rape crisis network, beginning in an environment of much less social and governmental support and with shoe-string budgets.

It can’t be beyond the abilities of large, well-organised organisations like Stonewall and GLADD etc to do the same.

NitroNine · 09/11/2024 08:50

But Utopia, everyone knows women-only services are funded by the ginormous right-wing Christo-Fascist slush fund & the occasional billionaire philanthropist 🤷‍♀️ Whereas TRAs only have their endless Grift Fraud Mes/pleas to PayAppMo them money for their rent & weed medication Because Reasons. They are the most neglected & downtroddenest in society EVER - it must be true, judges keep saying so when handing out disproportionately light sentences for serious offences.

IwantToRetire · 02/12/2024 01:06

Concerns about the ‘toxic culture’ at a rape charity were ignored by SNP ministers, it has been claimed.

The Scottish Government has confirmed that officials were told in September that the Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis (GCRC) was on the brink of disaffiliation from Rape Crisis Scotland (RCS).

Scottish Conservative equalities spokesman Tess White said: ‘This damning revelation raises serious questions for SNP ministers.
‘It is clear Glasgow Rape Crisis had serious concerns about the leadership at Rape Crisis Scotland but appear to have been ignored. That speaks volumes about the attitude of SNP ministers who helped to foster the toxic culture within Rape Crisis Scotland.

‘They should have acted immediately upon these concerns, rather than leaving it to Glasgow Rape Crisis to take a principled stance on their own weeks later.

‘The current leadership at Rape Crisis Scotland is not fit for purpose. The chief executive must do the honourable thing and resign if there is any hope of rebuilding trust with brave women and girls.’

Full article https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14146207/Now-SNP-ministers-accused-ignoring-fears-toxic-culture-rape-crisis-charity.html

SNP ministers 'ignored fears of toxic culture' in rape crisis charity

Concerns about the 'toxic culture' at a rape charity were ignored by SNP ministers, it has been claimed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14146207/Now-SNP-ministers-accused-ignoring-fears-toxic-culture-rape-crisis-charity.html

IwantToRetire · 12/12/2024 00:42

Interesting FOI request:

Information requested
1. Has the Scottish Government previously been contacted by Glasgow and Clyde Rape Crisis Centre to discuss its concerns about its relationship with Rape Crisis Scotland?
2. If so, can you detail when such correspondence took place and what concerns were raised?
3. Has the Scottish Government received correspondence from any other Rape Crisis Centre in Scotland expressing concerns about its relationship with Rape Crisis Scotland?
4. If the answer is yes to (3) can you provide any details about this?

https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-202400437902/

Rape Crisis Centre concerns regarding Rape Crisis Scotland: FOI release

Information request and response under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-202400437902

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