Women's jail campaigners demand transmen offenders should be kept in female prisons *Title edited at OP's request*

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Women's jail campaigners are demanding that the growing number of trans male offenders should be kept in female jails.

Dr Kate Coleman, of Keep Prisons Single Sex, said that the instances of women identifying as men mid-sentence is a “growing problem”.

But she believes that such prisoners should be treated as women - and that moving them to men’s prisons or a special “trans unit” would be misguided and dangerous.

“Whilst the focus, rightly in my view, has been on the risks that males who identify as transgender pose to women in prison, the challenges of adequately and appropriately meeting the needs of females who identify as transgender must be addressed.

“These needs must be met within the female estate.

“I understand that females who identify as men are difficult to manage.

“But there is no quandary about where to house her. She is female and belongs in the female estate. She must be managed in a way that is continuous with the way in which all other female prisoners are managed. Housing her in the male estate is not even a question that should be asked.

“This is for her own safety and for her own benefit as it is in the female estate that she will be able to access the services and programmes that are necessary for her to progress.”

NB Only extracts, NOT the whole article which can be read in full at https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/womens-jail-campaigners-demand-trans-33750904

And still there are only two gametes, and both are needed for humans to reproduce.

They are male because they were born male, because they met all the criteria for being male, and the only thing that has changed since then is that they persuaded a doctor to cut their cock and balls off.

And that's in the minority of cases where they make any change whatsoever.

Most "trans women" still have their cock and balls.

It's not my definition, it's the definition that 99.9% of humans are using, and which 100% of humans used until a few years ago when a small minority of people took leave of their senses.

Because they have a reproductive system intended to produce small gametes. Which is the consistent definition of male across all species whether that system has reached maturity, is defective, or has been removed .

thats not circular any way shape or form.

Ap
More argument by assertion.

Are you drunk?

I’m sure you think this is all very clever. It’s just empty sophistry.

I’ve heard it all now. 😂😂😂💀💀💀

Isn't sophistry supposed to be...well... sophisticated?

By which definition, the sun still obviously orbits the earth.

It would not surprise me in the slightest if you believed this.

Touché 😂

No, I just don't happen to like your particular brand of kool-aid.

The flat earth.

Reality?

Yes, we noticed.

Irony is dead. 😂

Since you evidently believe that truth is a popularity contest, you should certainly believe it.

Quite

Is the point of this deathly dull and unoriginal intervention to argue that women who identify as men who commit crimes should be housed in men’s prisons?

Reality? You call this mishegos reality? Oych.

But you seem to believe that the truth is whatever someone wants it to be so…

That’s exactly it. Sex is such a fuzzy and undefined concept that unambiguous males should be housed in female prisons should they feel they might actually be female.

Or vice versa.

Not really. Just that I do not for a moment believe that the question of who and what a woman is can ever be reduced to some sort of biological algorithm. And that the right to self-define, which feminists have fought for for as long as there have been feminists, is far to valuable to be handed over to some self-appointed clique of experts. Particularly when, as is the case here, those experts carry the unmistakable whiff of far-right Christian authoritarianism.

Sure 👍

Feminists have not fought for the right to pretend you are the opposite sex. You don’t have that power. You can define yourself however you like, but society will generally recognise and acknowledge your sex.