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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Canadian struggle session

156 replies

ArabellaScott · 17/09/2024 14:56

Independent MLA Jennifer Johnston has been forced to attend re education.

Quite a watch.

x.com/marco_huigenbos/status/1835818141160477015

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WarriorN · 17/09/2024 20:34

It's just awful to watch.

Her poise in the face of such manipulation is amazing.,

Waitingfordoggo · 17/09/2024 20:45

Oh that’s so sad to hear @DrBlackbird. 😕

lcakethereforeIam · 17/09/2024 21:19

Did you notice him snigger when he said 'woman'?

ArabellaScott · 17/09/2024 21:29

Duper's delight.

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JanesLittleGirl · 17/09/2024 22:13

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/09/2024 18:10

Not even because it's a lie.

I'm OK with kind white lies like "no your bum looks fine in that dress" that are only lies about the person's reality. If TWAW was that sort of a lie I'd have no issue being kind.

The issue with TWAW is that it is a lie not just about trans women but about every single woman (female person)'s reality.

It is the lie that the thing that makes men and women different is how they think not the bodies they have.

It is the lie that our minds just happen to come out different and it's nothing to do with how society treats us due to our sex.

It is the lie that our body sex has no impact on our lives but whether we think as a man or a woman does.

It is abhorrent than anyone would believe a man's need to hear he is a woman is more worthy of respect than a woman's need for her own reality.

I love you for this perfect summary.

Thank you so much.

BonfireLady · 17/09/2024 23:04

Quite the watch indeed.

Imagine this with any other belief.

"Until you agree that God is the Father/Allah is great we can't start this conversation"

"But what if I say that I'm happy we hold different beliefs? Could we still start the conversation?"

"Nooooooo. Goodbye"

Well, that's that then.

thisismygrumpyface · 17/09/2024 23:39

She remained a calm professional while he was going for some big speech before sashaying off Drag Race. Never seen a woman talk like that in their life.

Canada really seems to have lost the plot.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 17/09/2024 23:48

NoBinturongsHereMate · 17/09/2024 17:42

I was on a coastal path, the seal was in the water. It swam alongside and kept popping up to stare at me.

A selkie?

annejumps · 17/09/2024 23:54

She's very calm and almost gray-rocking him. I'm sure he was hoping she'd get emotional.

Helleofabore · 18/09/2024 00:44

How many of those sessions does she have to have successfully completed to be suitably re-educated?

XChrome · 18/09/2024 01:25

What was obnoxious was not that she won't say a trans identifier is a woman, but that she compared trans teens to shit.
She said high test scores in Alberta schools don't mean anything because there are a few transgender kids in the schools. She went on to elaborate thusly;

"Enjoy (the cookies), I only put a teaspoon of poop in them, but it doesn’t matter because it’s only a teaspoon in the whole batch. Same idea — we can be top three per cent, but that little bit of poop is what wrecks it.”

She's as much a kook as that trans nut is. Fuck both of them.

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2024 06:32

XChrome · 18/09/2024 01:25

What was obnoxious was not that she won't say a trans identifier is a woman, but that she compared trans teens to shit.
She said high test scores in Alberta schools don't mean anything because there are a few transgender kids in the schools. She went on to elaborate thusly;

"Enjoy (the cookies), I only put a teaspoon of poop in them, but it doesn’t matter because it’s only a teaspoon in the whole batch. Same idea — we can be top three per cent, but that little bit of poop is what wrecks it.”

She's as much a kook as that trans nut is. Fuck both of them.

Where's this from, please? Be good to read the whole quote in context.

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ArabellaScott · 18/09/2024 06:34

Helleofabore · 18/09/2024 00:44

How many of those sessions does she have to have successfully completed to be suitably re-educated?

Beatings will.continue until morale improves?

I.dont know, Helle. Couldn't find much info online.

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NecessaryScene · 18/09/2024 06:34

"He/she compared X to" is nearly up there with "he/she has links to" in my Big Book of Eye Rolls.

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2024 06:36

NecessaryScene · 18/09/2024 06:34

"He/she compared X to" is nearly up there with "he/she has links to" in my Big Book of Eye Rolls.

Like I said, it'd be good to read the full quote rather than the paraphrased assertion.

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XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:23

NecessaryScene · 18/09/2024 06:34

"He/she compared X to" is nearly up there with "he/she has links to" in my Big Book of Eye Rolls.

She has admitted it. I don't make things up.

Cambiarenome · 18/09/2024 07:36

She sounds like an awful person. Still doesn't make this right.

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2024 07:37

XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:21

https://globalnews.ca/news/9708932/ucp-candidate-jennifer-johnson-trans-kids-feces-caucus/

It does not have the whole spiel from that session but she has admitted she said it and apologized, so there is no room for doubt about that.

I'd like to hear the whole.session with the quote in context.

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XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:42

ArabellaScott · 18/09/2024 07:37

I'd like to hear the whole.session with the quote in context.

Your guess is as good as mine as to where that can be found.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:43

Cambiarenome · 18/09/2024 07:36

She sounds like an awful person. Still doesn't make this right.

I absolutely agree.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 18/09/2024 07:44

I'd still like to read the context not the paraphrasing of someone on very much the other side, from a movement that has made great capital out of asserting any opposition is hate and is therefore highly motivated to the worst possible reading of others' words.

I have not forgotten how the lady who quoted the very well known passage about "the big lie" to show how gender ideology was using the same methods as Naziism was gleefully reported by trans activisits as "we told you TERFS are Nazis, she even quoted Hitler!!!"

The "little bit of poo" analogy is widely used to explain that even if most of something is good, a small amount of very bad that cannot be removed from the good may be bad enough that the whole thing can't be done.

From the quote I read, she might indeed have meant "all trans kids are like shit", but she might also have meant "most trans identifying kids are fine but some are badly behaved or otherwise impacting the rest if the school" or "this ideology is harmful so even if it's only a few kids who actually identify as trans, endorsing the belief that mental gender exists and is more significant than sex has a bad impact on the whole community"

All I've been able to find so far is Trans Activits and allies gleefully performing aghastness.

popeydokey · 18/09/2024 07:52

"Enjoy (the cookies), I only put a teaspoon of poop in them, but it doesn’t matter because it’s only a teaspoon in the whole batch. Same idea — we can be top three per cent, but that little bit of poop is what wrecks it.”

This analogy is often used when talking about abuse in relationships. It doesn't mean anyone is literally poo.

popeydokey · 18/09/2024 07:56

My issue is not so much that I feel a burning need to say trans women are men, and more that I feel a burning need to not accept for myself a definition of Woman as a mental state that includes both male people and me.

What definition is that, though? They have never given one. "A male or female person" is as close as they get.

I'd be happy to at least consider a new definition of woman that differentiates ftom "man". There isn't one though, because they know it comes down to lady brains or feeling feminine or being a natural empathiser.