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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New podcast by Julie Bindel

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WarriorN · 10/09/2024 11:56

Julie in Genderland

Landed an hour ago on YouTube. I'm checking to see if it's on podcast platforms.

9 episodes with interviews

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WarriorN · 10/09/2024 11:57

Apple Podcast links:

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/julie-in-genderland/id1767562982

I'm sure it's elsewhere

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WarriorN · 10/09/2024 11:58

"In this series, Julie Bindel meets families whose lives have been thrown into turmoil by the ­failure of pretty much every institution to stand up to the cult of trans ideology.

They’ve been bullied into allowing their once-healthy children to take powerful drugs, sometimes undergo life-altering ­surgery, and be repeatedly brainwashed by the fad of gender.

This episode speaks to parents living under threat of sanction as a result of the social worker and counselling professions abandoning sense and safeguarding."

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WarriorN · 10/09/2024 11:59

First episode seems to be very much a damning indictment of social services

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Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 12:42

Good on Julie. About time the horrendous safeguarding failures institutions have created are exposed and long overdue for there to be some accountability.

I will listen but may need a stiff cup of tea first as I expect this to be a very upsetting listen.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 12:52

Ok, cup of tea in hand.

These social workers have committed child abuse. It goes against Working Together. Totally captured ideological zealots.

Not allowing parents to set boundaries. Taking way parental responsibility, which they do not have legal standing to do.

Fuckers, evil, evil abusive fuckers. Committing coercive control of the parents. Evil. These people need to be up in court.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 12:52

There is no way they can argue undermining and abusing parents in this way is in the best interests of children. No way.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 12:53

That counsellor who said 'I know you're a close loving family' but I have to report you to social services.

She KNEW she was destroying that 'close loving family' how could they possibly continue to be so after that?

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 12:55

Be warned everyone, this is unbelievably shocking and enraging.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 12:56

How did none of these supposed trained "professionals" not see that they were destroying these family relationships? Creating situations of coercive control? It's basic safeguarding.

MsNeis · 10/09/2024 13:00

Thank you for the recommendation! I don't always agree with Bindel (sometimes strongly disagree), but she's an old school outstanding journalist and I very much appreciate her work.

If @Dumbledoreslemonsherbets is right, I may have to prepare myself first before listening to it 🙏 Her work on sex trafficking always leaves me so down...

Edited to ask: in which podcast's platform can I find it?

MsNeis · 10/09/2024 13:08

WarriorN · 10/09/2024 11:57

Apple Podcast links:

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/julie-in-genderland/id1767562982

I'm sure it's elsewhere

Oh, I couldn't find it at Podcast Addict... I hope it's because it is very recent...

Username65 · 10/09/2024 13:14

You can get it through her Substack account too

MounjaroUser · 10/09/2024 13:16

Oh that's great - thanks for the link - and thanks, Julie, too!

EdithStourton · 10/09/2024 13:18

Can't find it on Spotify, but it was only a quick look.
Will have to listen later.
With a stiff cuppa.

TorghunKhan · 10/09/2024 13:51

Share this very far and wide - text it to everyone you know, stick it in every WhatsApp group chat you have

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 14:08

I've just listened to 1984 on a podcast. The way these "professionals" behaved is like those enforcing submission to Big Brother - 2+2=?

Of course Big Brother also sought to destroy family relationships

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 14:24

The way only what the zealots think counts is very much like assigning parents as 'unpersons' too.

It's Big Brother (or Big genderfluid person) through and through.

Utterly enraging but very good journalism from Julie.

In the unlikely hope Julie's reading here - thank you for doing this. Alongside the transwidows film, this enables lots of people whose lives have been DESTROYED by this ideology finally the chance to speak about THEIR lived experience.

WarriorN · 10/09/2024 14:29

It's brilliant and damming

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WarriorN · 10/09/2024 14:30

And absolutely horrifying- a teen girl was searched by male police as she identified as trans

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Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 14:40

I'm about halfway through episode 2.

Brave, brave father. He says 'what have I done to my daughter' when he realises that affirming for 3 years wasn't the right approach and she transitioned because of bullying.

He says he felt suicidal at that point.

And this is why so many parents double down - because they are not brave enough to admit that they got it wrong. They were facing horrendous pressure from evil "professionals" bent on a political agenda, and the threat of being told they were abusive if they didn't affirm. I hope these parents can come back to reality and can forgive themselves.

Also the Gender GP stuff - bloody hell, no psychiatrist appointment, no linkage with local GPs. Cowboys.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 10/09/2024 14:49

Oh brilliant - Julie is just telling these brave, brave parents to stop blaming themselves!

Julie is going up and up in my estimation. Well said! She's saying everything to those parents that I'd like to say! They were there for their daughter and they did the best for her in the face of enormous pressure to submit to the cult.

WarriorN · 10/09/2024 15:08

Oh yes that poor father Sad

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Seriestwo · 10/09/2024 17:34

The pain in the parents voices. Jesus.

BonfireLady · 11/09/2024 08:52

It's great that she's done this and I really hope that lots of people listen to it.

Although I've listened to detransitioners (and found their stories heartbreaking to hear, as well as being impressed by their strength to speak out), I would find this too close to the bone for me at the moment.

No, my daughter hasn't transitioned but I'm still incredibly aware of the bias and influences encircling her that pull her towards doing so. We've still got a "deal" on the table that we'll look at breast reduction surgery (she's barely got anything there, and with her sports bra is virtually flat) together when she's 21. She's now 15. She's moved on lots on this already, having previously told me that she would be getting a double mastectomy - or "top surgery" as she put it - as soon as she was 18. Obviously I'm buying time with our deal but I'll honour it, if it comes to it. Hopefully it won't and/or if we looked at it together she'd come to the conclusion that it wasn't something she needed when looking at risks and benefits. She also previously thought she wanted testosterone, although I'm pretty sure she's now recognised how dangerous this is for females at a cardiovascular level. To be clear, she's never overtly said "I'm trans", or explicitly said she identifies as non-binary/male, but the subject first came in to our household when she was 13 and told us she thought that she might be.

So it's close to the bone because I'm still really scared that she'll be pulled towards making an irreversible, life-impacting decision at some point. It's this fear that drives me forward in how I do everything that I can to mitigate the risk of this happening, but the influences really are everywhere. It's like playing whack-a-mole with a standard sized mallet on a football pitch sized board. I've shared some things on this board but not everything.

I've met one parent IRL whose daughter has transitioned (with testosterone), where he isn't on board with it. I have no idea if he ever was at one point as that didn't come up in conversation. He now spends his time fighting hard to stop others from having to go through this. His pain was so difficult to listen to, particularly given how his face lit up he was when he spoke about what his daughter was like before this happened. She was driven, bubbly, intelligent etc. He said that she's now just getting by in a basic job and has lost all her passion for life. I'm glad that I met him and I'm glad he's another voice fighting hard to help others. It's incredible that he has been able to channel his pain constructively. I introduced myself with my own first name - not surname - so I don't want to say anything more about him or how I met him.

But this...

Brave, brave father. He says 'what have I done to my daughter' when he realises that affirming for 3 years wasn't the right approach and she transitioned because of bullying.

He says he felt suicidal at that point.

...is a whole other level of pain. The realisation of having been complicit, albeit ignorantly and with the best of intentions, must be one of the most difficult things ever to come to terms with. I can fully understand why most parents in this situation would go the other way and champion "gender affirming care".

In addition to the timing of her periods starting, my daughter was also being severely bullied (autism-related) when her major mental health crash happened and she was admitted to hospital.

If we get to the point where my daughter does reduce/remove her breasts or make any other irreversible changes to her body linked to this awful medical scandal, I'll listen to more parents like in these podcasts. I do read the articles on PITT parents etc but I'm not mentally strong enough to hear the pain in their voices right now.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 11/09/2024 09:08

@BonfireLady Just to say I am in awe of how you continue to fight for your daughter all the time, against the odds.

I don't think you need to listen to this because you've lived it to a greater or lesser extent, though you may want to at some point when the time is right for you. You maybe haven't had every experience but you have suffered at the hands of abusive affirmation only institutions. And I don't know how you keep going in the face of this. This podcast brings home how incredibly hard it is for parents - who've been abused horribly by the institutions set up to support them. So many saying they felt suicidal - where's the care for them? Where's the recognition that it's the parents who need to be able to care for their children and destroying their mental health will damage their ability to do that? It's very basic humanity that is being ignored here - as well as the basics of safeguarding.

How many children have been harmed? How many families torn apart, deliberately, by these so called 'professionals' in service of a nonsensical evidence - free ideology ?

It brings it home that until the bullies masquerading as 'professionals' who are harming families are held to account for this, nothing will really change.