Did anyone else hear this?
Is there another thread on this already? If so, sorry. I couldn't see it.
I came in half way through but will listen to the whole thing when I have time.
It appeared to be a chance for them both to ask questions of each other and respectfully hear the answers. I didn't hear SD's qus for CM, just the tail end of questions from CM to SD, beginning with her reply (not sure of the qu) explaining that menstruation plays a huge part in training, as does biology and formation of bones, which is why it is vital that to ensure young girls coming up through the sports system now are not sidelined by transwomen with their biological advantage. SD also said that there was no way any trans ID'd person ever has or ever can literally change sex and therefore their notion of what it is to be a woman is a gender construct and sport depends on science and bilogy so should rely on sex not gender to determine eligibility.
SD suggested creating new categories - transwomen categories. She also - very powerfully - put an argument for the role of transmen in sport, saying they don;t get a look in anywhere right now because they are disqualified from women's sport due to testosterone and don't compete against men because they cannot match the power of male athletes competing at elite levels.
The format appeared to be that the person asking the question recaps what they heard of the reply - a technique from therapy I suppose, to acknowledge the speaker without retaliating.
CM said they heard that Sharon didn't see transwomen as women, even though transwomen are women. An emotionally-centred reply.
What CM failed to hear - selective deafness at its finest - was every fact laid down by SD about menstruation and bone formation. CM literally didn't hear that there was no place currently for transmen because they can;t compete against biological men. CM couldn't hear the facts.Didn;t acknowledge or address them. All they heard was that SD didn't think you can be a woman just by saying you are a woman, and this upset CM so much that their voice began to wobble, like a toddler being told no.
I just thought one person here is logical, practical, honest, fair, fighting for the rights f others, niot self-serving. And one person is stamping their little foot to get what they want. Why does society collude with this. Is it just because sport has always been inundated with misogynistic tossers who hate the idea of women beginning to have equal air time and pay, so they get some sort of covert glee at putting elite sportswomen back in their place by letting men dominate them in competitions?