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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Valentina Petrillo race this morning?

125 replies

Downthemedow · 02/09/2024 09:30

I’m assuming Channel 4 may not cover it as there is not UK competitor. Any idea where to try and watch it? I’m very curious as to what will happen.

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Cambiarenome · 02/09/2024 12:47

Enoughwiththisshit · 02/09/2024 12:32

Nicely uncompromising article in the Telegraph on this cheat. Sorry I don't have an unpaywalled link!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/paralympic-sport/2024/09/02/valentina-petrillo-paralympic-sprinter-athletics-t12-male/

Great article and not behind a pay wall for me.

SpinUp2 · 02/09/2024 12:51

The other two competitors had guides. I wonder why this competitor doesn't need one.

lcakethereforeIam · 02/09/2024 12:53

🤢 from the Telegraph article

The consternation has extended to Petrillo’s demand to access female changing facilities. In response to complaints from women’s advocacy group RadFem Italia ahead of a race in Ancona last year, Petrillo was provided with a designated changing room separate from women. The athlete lashed out in a subsequent Facebook post, accusing detractors of being “on the same level as Hitler”.

viques · 02/09/2024 12:55

SpinUp2 · 02/09/2024 12:51

The other two competitors had guides. I wonder why this competitor doesn't need one.

T12 athletes have the option to use a guide. So on this issue Petrillo is fine.

WickedSerious · 02/09/2024 12:58

lcakethereforeIam · 02/09/2024 12:53

🤢 from the Telegraph article

The consternation has extended to Petrillo’s demand to access female changing facilities. In response to complaints from women’s advocacy group RadFem Italia ahead of a race in Ancona last year, Petrillo was provided with a designated changing room separate from women. The athlete lashed out in a subsequent Facebook post, accusing detractors of being “on the same level as Hitler”.

It's always wee Adolf.

SinnerBoy · 02/09/2024 13:18

From the Telegraph article:

This was a dream,” says Valentina Petrillo, who today became a Paralympic sprinter at the age of 51, “that I had since I was a little girl.” Except this is an athlete who was never a little girl in the first place.

As thought by everybody capable of rational thinking.

SammyScrounge · 02/09/2024 13:23

viques · 02/09/2024 10:45

I noticed Petrillo raced in shorts. Obviously their commitment to being a woman met a limitation.

As a pp said, commiseration to the women whose Paralympic dream this cheat has destroyed.

The Italian woman whose hard work and effort to try to gain a place in the Italian squad was ignored so that a male body could fulfill his dream.

The woman whose place in the semi final has been taken by a blatant cheat.

I do hope they get this sorted by 2028, I can’t bear to think how the Olympics will look since so many areas of US sports have been captured, and I think many smaller, poorer countries will also jump on the trans / DSD bandwagons to earn medals.

Four Years to Fix It IOC and Paralympic Sports bodies.

Edited

This is the year the Olympics became a farce. Principles of fairness and a level playing field, even of safeguarding, were sacrificed to allow men who were 3rd rate as athletes competing against men but who could win against women because of their physical advantages.
Every sporting event will be swarming with men in women's events from this day forward.

CatDogGuineaPig · 02/09/2024 13:59

I can't believe there isn't more media coverage. I think lots of people would be incredibly shocked

Cambiarenome · 02/09/2024 14:02

CatDogGuineaPig · 02/09/2024 13:59

I can't believe there isn't more media coverage. I think lots of people would be incredibly shocked

You know I think a lot of people don't really consider the paralympics as "proper" sport so they just think "inclusivity" is good. It's incredibly patronising.

334bu · 02/09/2024 14:25

Petrillo didn't look as if they were putting much effort into the race.

littlbrowndog · 02/09/2024 14:30

I watched him race

he’s so much older than the other athletes

and they did only show that heat 🤦‍♀️

Cambiarenome · 02/09/2024 14:39

I just wish that for once one of the Italian journalists fawning over him would push back on the claim that tw have no advantage and ask: if it's such a level playing field why aren't there other 50 year olds (or 40 year olds...) competing.

magicmushrooms · 02/09/2024 15:34

And they had the obligatory fake nails, colourful varnish plus the red (sometimes orange) lipstick. It is like a uniform for them- it if lippy & some nail varnish jobs done - I am now a woman.

disgraceful they are also competing against true para athletes, as if they are not marginalised enough.

CindyBirdsong · 02/09/2024 15:41

"Since I was a girl" What a complete insult, he's fathered children.
Check out #Isitok. Bet this never gets mentioned.

ApocalypseNowt · 02/09/2024 15:49

The #isitok hashtag is all over this question on X...!

CorruptedCauldron · 02/09/2024 16:07

Yes @ApocalypseNowt I noticed the #isitok hashtag was trending on X with absolutely loads of posts about the unfairness of Petrillo competing against women. I don’t expect Adam Hills to take any notice though, unless it’s to get on his soapbox and call us all right-wing terfs.

Guess what, Adam? Women are people too, and they deserve the chance to excel in sport against other females, not against male people who wish they were female. Is it OK for men to compete against women? No. No it is not OK.

Harassedevictee · 02/09/2024 16:33

ThreeWordHarpy · 02/09/2024 12:43

I wonder if the Last Leg will cover this? They’re very TWAW, but also champions of disability sports. They’ve already said that the coverage should be about competitiveness and winning, respecting the competitors as athletes. Not patronising inclusiveness and “it’s the taking part that’s important”. Tempted to tweet them an #isitok.

Sadly for a show that has done so much good for people with disabilities they are ignoring the # isitok questions about a 50 year old man competing in a women’s race.

They are 100% TWAW which is surprising when they are all fathers of daughters.

MouseofCommons · 02/09/2024 16:46

The Last Leg team have no interest in fairness for women. They'll avoid the issue, or tell us all to be kind.

What time is his race tonight?

quantumbutterfly · 02/09/2024 16:55

Who knew that racing to the bottom could be an olympic sport?

viques · 02/09/2024 17:01

Cambiarenome · 02/09/2024 14:39

I just wish that for once one of the Italian journalists fawning over him would push back on the claim that tw have no advantage and ask: if it's such a level playing field why aren't there other 50 year olds (or 40 year olds...) competing.

Exactly this, and if there is no advantage in having a male body then 50% of those absent 50 year old athletes would be women wouldn’t they?

HootyMcBooby · 02/09/2024 17:19

lcakethereforeIam · 02/09/2024 12:53

🤢 from the Telegraph article

The consternation has extended to Petrillo’s demand to access female changing facilities. In response to complaints from women’s advocacy group RadFem Italia ahead of a race in Ancona last year, Petrillo was provided with a designated changing room separate from women. The athlete lashed out in a subsequent Facebook post, accusing detractors of being “on the same level as Hitler”.

But they just want to peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....... etc etc.

Separate spaces not enough are they? Because............drum roll............. it is not, and has NEVER been about the space.

It's about the women in them, and their unquestioning validation.

Why should this person care if they have to change in a separate area or not? Why does there have to be "other" women in there with them? It's not enough that they get to access the space, they need the capitulation and surrender of every other person too.
Fucking disgusting cheating man.

JellySaurus · 02/09/2024 17:21

According to that article World Para Athletics regulations say “Transgender athletes wishing to compete in the female category in WPA competitions are required to declare that their gender identity for sporting purposes is female, and to provide evidence that their total testosterone level in serum has been below 10 nanomoles per litre for at least 12 months.”

their gender identity for sporting purposes

So they don't even need to actually 'be' trans. They don't need to perform their version of womanhood in day-to-day life. All the mediocre male paraathlete needs to do is state their gender identity for sporting purposes and dope down into an elite category that they can win more easily than the appropriate category for their sex.

But not in the disability classifications. Why can't the single-amputee compete in their double-amputee identity for sporting purposes? Oh, silly me, that would be unfair.

viques · 02/09/2024 17:51

MouseofCommons · 02/09/2024 16:46

The Last Leg team have no interest in fairness for women. They'll avoid the issue, or tell us all to be kind.

What time is his race tonight?

I expect the Last Leg team are praying as hard as they can that VP loses then they will be able to bring out the “Transwomen athletes don’t have unbeatable advantages , yaboo you TERFy haters” rhetoric, forgetting of course that while VP is a poor athlete VP has stolen chances from an unknown Italian female athlete who not only deserved her chance to be included in the Paralympics but , for all we know, had a decent chance of winning a medal.

It’s not just the potential unfairness to the other athletes in the race, it is the very evident unfairness of the opportunities stolen from the athletes whose places he usurps.

WickedSerious · 02/09/2024 18:26

Harassedevictee · 02/09/2024 16:33

Sadly for a show that has done so much good for people with disabilities they are ignoring the # isitok questions about a 50 year old man competing in a women’s race.

They are 100% TWAW which is surprising when they are all fathers of daughters.

Yes and I'm sure they're raising them to be ever so kind.