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1dayatatime · 05/09/2024 21:13

@Signalbox

"Is it because nobody dare question the value of DEI content in case they are denounced as being against equality etc."

It's because there are people out that genuinely believe white Irish RC families are all closed minded racists that don't like change or anything new.

If you dare to challenge this view then that is proof that you are a closed minded racist that doesn't like change or anything new.

It is shockingly that simple.

GailBlancheViola · 05/09/2024 21:31

I note none of those posters who think it is terrible that DEI is being questioned or criticised and have made their horror at posters on here who do not share their opinion known have made any comment on that appalling Irish book. Would love to hear their excuses and justification for it.

TempestTost · 05/09/2024 21:36

Signalbox · 04/09/2024 13:21

Allison Bailey isn’t impressed…

“I will be submitting a written response to this consultation; however, my immediate reaction to the announcement by my regulator, the Bar Standards Board, that it proposes to amend the Core Duty of all barristers by requiring them to 'promote equality, diversity and inclusion when practising or otherwise providing legal services' is that it’s a terrible idea.

EDI has become synonymous with trans activism, the removal of single-sex protections and rights in the workplace and elsewhere, and the unlawful discrimination and victimisation of women.

This has been to the detriment of tackling other forms of discrimination and inequality in areas such as disability, age, sex, race, and sexual orientation discrimination, including by those within the so called LGBTQ+ 'community'.

But it isn't for barristers to promote anything beyond the rule of law and the best interests of their clients within the law.

I think the existing core duties are enough in this regard. They require barristers not to discriminate unlawfully and to act with honesty and integrity. Turning this into a requirement to promote EDI is fraught with danger. This smacks of regulatory overreach.

Written responses to this consultation must be received by 5 pm on 29 November 2024.”

I find this both shocking and unsurprising.

More and more bodies that have some kind of public purpose seem to be taking this line - that besides whatever their actual purpose is (providing access to information, doing scientific research, providing drivers licencing services) their other purpose is to 'promote equality, diversity and inclusion when practising or otherwise providing whatever our actually mandated services are".

It seems like all of these people have zero comprehension that if they are there trying to promote DEI activities it might interfere with their actual purpose.

This is why you have people applying for jobs as researchers in universities in sciences or engineering having to justify how they are promoting DEI in their daily work, and the universities and other bodies having to show how each hire fulfills DEI objectives.

In this case, it seems like it could actually undermine actual justice and the principles of serving the client too, which seems to me a little problematic.

endofthelinefinally · 05/09/2024 21:40

This is how you end up with women being forced to refer to the male who assaulted them as "she", in court.

DoreenonTill8 · 05/09/2024 22:32

endofthelinefinally · 05/09/2024 21:40

This is how you end up with women being forced to refer to the male who assaulted them as "she", in court.

Well of course? What matters more? A rape victim's dignity and showing empathy for them or making sure a violent misogynist is 'happy'?

inamarina · 05/09/2024 23:58

DojaPhat · 03/09/2024 22:27

Not comforted enough by redefining CRT and 'woke' to become the next 'downfall' of society, those pushing back have found new relish with the entire DEI apparatus. Good luck to them and all that, but it's curious really that many seem to think once they've done away with all the 'DEI-nonsense' that order will somehow be restored and the feminists will be among the victors.

Why should people have to accept an ideology wholesale? It’s not like unquestioning support of all “trans rights” for instance didn’t have negative consequences for feminists and women in general.
Do you think some people just decided to re-define concepts like“woke”, or could it be that it’s the concept itself that has changed and people are just describing what they’re seeing?

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