Taiwan Tries to Silence Fair Play For Women

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Fair Play For Women has been approached by the Taiwan embassy in the UK to remove their posts describing Olympic boxer Lin Yu-ting as ‘male’.

Dear God, they just need to show us the karyotype results with ‘XX’ and this all goes away.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2024/08/16/taiwan-womens-right-campaigners-gender-row-boxer/

https://x.com/fairplaywomen/status/1824478183422402569?s=46&t=WBUCdrv9BwgG-lsI3-uNuQ

as the labs haven’t been disclosed, how do you know this?

IBA also said
”The IBA claimed they failed “to meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors.”

Which means that the boxers were still found to be female, not male, as far as the IBA was concerned.

The IOC did not overturn the chromosomal tests, they regarded them as irrelevant because their criteria for eligibility to compete in the female category do not exclude males.

The tests have been leaked so we know that they were chromosomal tests. Both boxers were tested in 2022 and found to be male. They were tested again in 2023 and the results were exactly the same.

How could the IOC "overturn" the results of chromosomal tests without doing any chromosomal tests?

3 Wire Sports has seen the letter and the tests.

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2024/8/3/0d4ucn50bmvbndhhqjohaneccoqueq

In New Delhi, another test for each, “to reconfirm the findings of the initial test, which it did,” according to the June 2023 letter the IBA sent to the IOC.

The New Delhi lab reports for both Khelif and Lin say the same thing:
Result Summary: “Abnormal”
Interpretation: “Chromosomal analysis reveals Male karyotype.”

A karyotype means an individual’s complete set of chromosomes. Females have XX chromosomes, males XY.

The lab results for each athlete depict the XY chromosomes photographically.

Again the tests were “unspecified” in every source I have seen and posted. Unless you have a trustworthy source stating these were chromosomal tests you need to qualify your statements to indicate this is speculation.

The lab wasn’t ’dodgy’.

Seems you are being libellous, not FPFW.

No, it does not show that they were found to be female. They were found to have XY chromosomes. That is not female.

Still waiting for the evidence that the IOC overturned the results.

See NotBadConsidering's post above yours.

I don't know why you're arguing about the results anyway since the boxers accepted them.

Ok, assuming that the unshared and alleged IBA letter did say the tests were karotyping and the result was “abnormal- male Karotyoe” that is really odd wording as “abnormal- male Kathryn’s” doesn’t mean a normal male with XY chromosomes because that’s not an abnormal result.

So she may have Klinefelter syndrome or Turner syndrome.

An abnormal karotyoe usually means zero competitive advantage as well.

In the absence of this wired news source actually including the alleged letter, I am skeptical. The IOC would not have overruled the disqualification if they were normal XY men.

One did, the other appealed. And why are you arguing since the boxers also accepted and welcomed the overall ruling body, the IOC overturning the tests and disqualifications?

Yeah we cross posted. The source is dodgy, if there is such a IBA letter, why not release it?

Nothing has been shown though. A news article has been posted alleging an IBA letter that they “have seen”….

Still waiting for the evidence that the IOC overturned the results.
You have it. They competed in the Olympics didnt they? If the IOC had not overturned the results, do you really think they would have let them compete in the women’s events?

The eligibility criteria is to be female surely

so they failed to meet it…therefore not female

would that not be right?

lol, there are more eligibility criteria than that! Never heard of doping have you?

Oh so they were doping

interesting

Anyway gotta run. Please feel free to post some solid evidence if you find any,
btw a lawsuit has been filed by Khalif for cyberbullying.

Your comment about failing the eligibility criteria meaning they are female has no grounding in reality

Of course you do 😀

have a lovely Sunday, i must go for a walk!

No, I, not saying that. I am saying that these were unspecified tests from what IBA have released publicly and that eligibility to compete tests cover a lot more than gender/sex testing, to include but not limited to tests to ensure no doping.

Right back atcha

do be careful linking athletes with doping comments wont you….

This is the whole point! The IOC criteria for being female was simply having an F in your passport. The IBA’s was actually being female. The IBA, after complaints from other competitors and their coaches, sex-tested these two boxers and they failed. Khelif’s own trainer says IK took medication to lower their testosterone and at the Olympics it was ‘in the female’ range. So, by deduction, prior to that it was in the male range - for the simple reason IK is male.

Doping tests aren’t sex tests. A female person would pass a sex test, being female, but could fail a separate doping test if they were taking banned substances. They are two different things and two separate tests.

The IBA said both boxers had failed sex tests.

as the labs haven’t been disclosed, how do you know this?

Oh, enough of sealioning, please! The labs HAVE been named. They are both fully accredited and accepted by the IOC, for goodness sake.

And then the IOC put out an incorrect statement which then had to be corrected which basically resulted in confirmation there was a DSD issue.

A decent defence lawyer would be all over the IOC car crash of handling.