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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Imane Khelif

805 replies

LHayday · 14/08/2024 20:07

Just reading the thread on here for the first time. What I fail to understand is why so many contributors are so desperate for her to be a man. Someone who has lived their entire life as a woman. Beggars belief.

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Msmbc · 14/08/2024 21:41

NecessaryScene · 14/08/2024 20:55

I do sometimes wonder whether the "you're horrible bullies" lot would EVER object to a man boxing a woman.

Is it that this case is somehow not clear-cut enough, so they are seizing onto a sliver of doubt that lets them retain their shred of "my tribe good" belief?

Is it actually possible for them to ever object to a man boxing a woman, or would they always find some way to justify it - "my side is supporting it, so there must be a reason for it"....

You can completely agree both that there needs to be sensible sex eligibility rules in sport and that the way you lot are speaking about IK and in fact how you typically speak about trans people generally is horrible, disgusting bullying. I do.

JaneJeffer · 14/08/2024 21:41

I have never heard any woman saying they have lived their life as a woman

CorvusPurpureus · 14/08/2024 21:42

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

You might start by taking a simple cheek swab test to demonstrate that you're female, mightn't you?

Rather than by declining to appeal the result of precisely that test showing - at least twice - that you were in fact, male.

WickedSerious · 14/08/2024 21:43

Floisme · 14/08/2024 20:17

If only there was a way of proving Imane's sex.

It's a bugger isn't it?

CorvusPurpureus · 14/08/2024 21:43

Msmbc · 14/08/2024 21:41

You can completely agree both that there needs to be sensible sex eligibility rules in sport and that the way you lot are speaking about IK and in fact how you typically speak about trans people generally is horrible, disgusting bullying. I do.

IK isn't trans.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 21:43

JaneJeffer · 14/08/2024 21:41

I have never heard any woman saying they have lived their life as a woman

Exactly. I don’t live my life as a woman, I live my life as me

the only thing I have in common with all other women is a body designed around the production of large gametes and the birthing of children even though I’ve never had one

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:43

OldCrone · 14/08/2024 21:26

At no point did I say that Imane Khelif HAD swyer syndrome (I know it's floating around the www but the original source has been removed). If you can find where I stated that, please feel free to quote.

This is what you said in your post quoted above.

I know Old crone, there is some weird fuckwittery going on with this thread.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 21:45

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:43

I know Old crone, there is some weird fuckwittery going on with this thread.

Probably posted for Screenshots - when are the summer holidays over?

Msmbc · 14/08/2024 21:45

CorvusPurpureus · 14/08/2024 21:43

IK isn't trans.

Obviously I know that. I didn't say they were.

Dygger · 14/08/2024 21:46

Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:44

You lot are horrible bullies and should be ashamed of yourselves. I am truly disgusted

We support your right to feel disgusted. We support your right to believe that biology doesn't matter and ignore the fact Khalif has had two sex tests, both processed in IOC-approved laboratories, that indicate he has XY chromosomes and is a male person with a DSD of some kind. We support your right to think we should be ashamed of ourselves.

We exercise our right to laugh at you and conclude you're either delusional or a paid-up member of the gender cult.

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:46

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 21:45

Probably posted for Screenshots - when are the summer holidays over?

Edited

Could be. But most of us have been doing this now for two weeks, surely they would have have enough now ?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 21:47

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:46

Could be. But most of us have been doing this now for two weeks, surely they would have have enough now ?

You’d think there would be enough for an entire 3 hour ppt presentation by now but here we are 🤪

WickedSerious · 14/08/2024 21:48

Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:37

SHE

may be the face I can't forget

a trace of pleasure or regret.........

Join in with the bits you know ladies and gents.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 14/08/2024 21:49

WickedSerious · 14/08/2024 21:48

may be the face I can't forget

a trace of pleasure or regret.........

Join in with the bits you know ladies and gents.

..price you have to pay...

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 21:50

The famine or the feast……

Tunnocks anyone?

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:51

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2024 21:40

You have extrapolated an incorrect conclusion from my premises.

You should be able to grasp that from my previous post.

If you are unable to, I don't think I can help you further.

So, I shouldn’t read your posts and respond to what you have posted? Good to know.

Have you come up with why you have decided to ignore the official tests and the coach’s statement about visiting a Paris endocrinologist with the view to fight the official test, only to be told that Khelif needed to suppress their testosterone?

Dygger · 14/08/2024 21:51

She may not be what she may seem inside her shell...

FrillyKnickersAndNoFurCoat · 14/08/2024 21:52

Newsenmum · 14/08/2024 21:17

I’m pretty sure she had no idea she was ‘male’. She was born with a vulva/vagina and and went through normal female puberty and was obviously very good at her sport. It’s possible some ‘non traditional’ women on here might not realise they are xy. Are you now men?

What's a non traditional woman?
A man?

OldCrone · 14/08/2024 21:52

JaneJeffer · 14/08/2024 21:41

I have never heard any woman saying they have lived their life as a woman

Perhaps only men can live as women.

WickedSerious · 14/08/2024 21:53

Sheeeeeee,who always seems so happy in a crowd

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:55

FFS. It is like ground hog day!

user1471453601 · 14/08/2024 21:55

Nothing, absolutely nothing, was ever solved by people standing in opposite corners and screaming at each other.

all I see, at the moment, is a person being bullied by others.

Please, more light less heat.

why can't we have a n adult conversation about this issue? Why must it come down to shouting and piling on?

WickedSerious · 14/08/2024 21:55

Aussieland · 14/08/2024 20:44

You lot are horrible bullies and should be ashamed of yourselves. I am truly disgusted

Are you angry with us?

Or just disappointed?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/08/2024 21:55

Whose eyes can be so private and so proud…..🎤

suggestionsplease1 · 14/08/2024 21:55

Helleofabore · 14/08/2024 21:51

So, I shouldn’t read your posts and respond to what you have posted? Good to know.

Have you come up with why you have decided to ignore the official tests and the coach’s statement about visiting a Paris endocrinologist with the view to fight the official test, only to be told that Khelif needed to suppress their testosterone?

You're perfectly welcome to respond to my posts.

But when you lie about what I am saying, I will point that out.

Given your inclination to lie I take that as a sign of bad faith, and you should understand some posters might not want to engage fully in those situations as it is tiresome pointing out the misrepresentations and lies, time and time again.