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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hadley Freeman: Olympic bosses failed women long before the Imane Khelif gender row

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WarriorN · 11/08/2024 08:11

archive.is/2024.08.11-002701/www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/olympic-bosses-imane-khelif-boxing-gender-row-ns8tc3fqg

An excellent and blistering article

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WarriorN · 11/08/2024 08:12

Drat, being archive link it may go poof ...

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HMTheQueenMuffin · 11/08/2024 08:17

Darn it. I can't get the link to work. But I'll go out on a limb and say Hadley is right and wrote a blistering and concise article proving her point.

HMTheQueenMuffin · 11/08/2024 08:17

Two seconds later - NOW I can get the link to work!!! Off to read now.

WarriorN · 11/08/2024 08:19

I found it on Twitter:

x.com/ronninicole1/status/1822448808803848576?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

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HMTheQueenMuffin · 11/08/2024 08:23

Love the para;

''On Friday Bach made like a Labour MP circa 2019 and pretended there is no way of knowing what a woman is. He said: “If someone is presenting us with a scientifically solid system how to identify men and women … we would be more than pleased.” Well, he could push them down a ski slope and see if their uterus falls out? Or the IOC could take a swab from inside their cheeks which is all a sex test involves.''

Hadley nails it as always.

*edited because the para contained a link which went funny

fairislecable · 11/08/2024 08:24

Clearly written and stating the bleeding obvious - well done Hadley.

LunaNorth · 11/08/2024 08:25

The photographs of the fight are so difficult to look at.

Newnamesameoldlurker · 11/08/2024 08:29

Hadley nails it as usual. Thanks for sharing this

INeedAPensieve · 11/08/2024 08:30

Hadley peaked me. I was a guardian reader for years and years and I'd always loved her writing and when I discovered she was leaving the paper I commented under her last article wishing her well and another commentator had put a link to Private Eye and Unherd to show the real reason she'd quit. I followed the links and the rest is history.

So I always like it when she writes a zinger like this! She started me on this mad journey. My eyes have been opened.

334bu · 11/08/2024 08:32

Thank you for link.

CorruptedCauldron · 11/08/2024 08:38

Brilliant article by Hadley. She knows the score.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/08/2024 08:41

No Male's in Female Sport.

Hadley Freeman: Olympic bosses failed women long before the Imane Khelif gender row
powershowerforanhour · 11/08/2024 08:44

Perfectly straight talking. BTW I didn't know Caster Semenya had ever said this, I thought the whole schtick was, "I'm just a girl who wants to run and everyone should be kind".

"When GB’s Lynsey Sharp complained in 2016 about being denied a medal because of the three DSD runners, she was barraged with death threats. “Lynsey is a good runner. She would’ve been even better if she’d just bit her lip and trained,” Semanya sniped in her 2023 memoir, The Race to Be Myself. "

Just another man telling a woman to shut up. Nice.

GeorgeOrwellsTurningGrave · 11/08/2024 08:58

I'd say she pulls no punches in that excellent article but I'm too angry to make daft jokes. That photo paints a thousand words though. Shame on those male cheaters. And no, I'm not going to just blame the IOC who allowed it. Those men are the ones who got into the ring and hit women with the full force male advantage.

guinnessguzzler · 11/08/2024 09:01

Thanks, Hadley, getting it right again.

Omlettes · 11/08/2024 10:01

Great article, thank you.

Shortshriftandlethal · 11/08/2024 10:03

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/08/2024 08:41

No Male's in Female Sport.

I was going to post that image......really upsetting.

Oblomov24 · 11/08/2024 10:04

I'm pleased that the Olympics had raised this issue to the general public more so than before.

CorruptedCauldron · 11/08/2024 10:25

That picture is horrific. Out of interest, is it normal for female Olympic boxers to get facial cuts and bleed everywhere when fighting other women?

MovetoJersey · 11/08/2024 10:42

powershowerforanhour · 11/08/2024 08:44

Perfectly straight talking. BTW I didn't know Caster Semenya had ever said this, I thought the whole schtick was, "I'm just a girl who wants to run and everyone should be kind".

"When GB’s Lynsey Sharp complained in 2016 about being denied a medal because of the three DSD runners, she was barraged with death threats. “Lynsey is a good runner. She would’ve been even better if she’d just bit her lip and trained,” Semanya sniped in her 2023 memoir, The Race to Be Myself. "

Just another man telling a woman to shut up. Nice.

.this!

Catsmere · 12/08/2024 03:28

LunaNorth · 11/08/2024 08:25

The photographs of the fight are so difficult to look at.

Yes, they blather on about "hate speech", but this isn't sport, it's MVAWG masquerading as sport, and yeah, I do hate MVAWG and its perpetrators.

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