Wtf Meghan Murphy

[CassieMaddox]

A feminist I used to really admire, deciding pussy grabbing, porn loving, convicted felon Trump and his misogynistic, fickle, anti abortion, running mate Vance are the best choice for American women.

https://x.com/MeghanEMurphy/status/1814817323754381763

Feminists/'feminist' men keep insisting to me that @JDVance1 is a misogynist who wants to 'take away women's rights' yet Trump/Vance are the only choice if we wish to restore women's sex-based rights in America (never mind the fact that Vance is anti-p*rn). I am not a fan of letting the government have any say over what women do with their bodies, but 'abortion rights' have for decades been used as a pawn in political games, and women keep letting themselves be played.

Voting Democrat solely because they'll let you have an abortion while they allow all the rest of our sex-based rights to be destroyed seems unwise to me. Women need to take their bodily autonomy into their own hands imo — this means we need to learn about and educate other women about their bodies and reproductive system, so we aren't relying on the government to dole out hormonal birth control (which is HORRIBLE for us) and dictate our reproductive choices. It's far from an ideal situation, but I resent being told I must vote for a party that can't even define the word 'woman' because they'll allow women to have abortions. That gives me the icks and should give you the icks as well.

I don't believe we should be handing over our power to governments, and the more we understand about our own bodies, the power of food/herbal medicine, the less we need to rely on the state or the medical establishment to allow us bodily autonomy and pretend to be invested in our health and wellbeing.

I do think we should fight against anyone/any laws that tell us what we may or may not do with our bodies, but the Democrats are not the party of body sovereignty either, so I'm not sure why women give them that credit.

I'm not sure what's going on with her but this is a huge shock. Very glad I'm not in the States right now.

I'm afraid you'll have to be gentle with some of the posters here @honestyISkind, the woke mind virus is raging through them.

There is a difference between people refusing to accept the US election result and storming The Capitol,

and people legally exercising free speech to demonstrate against the US arming of a foreign war, in the Congress building, one of the Capitol buildings, (where the foreign war-wager in question was due to make a speech rallying for more support and arms).

That was in response to this post which I had forgotten to quote:

KielderWater · Today 11:48
Of course the Capitol invasion happened but it couldn’t really be considered a serious coup attempt - it was quite clearly destined to fail as there was no support amongst those necessary to ensure a coup - the army or the public structures. It was more of a protest. A concerning one but not a serious coup attempt.

However, it is mirrored on the left by the protests over Gaza (including another occupation of capitol buildings).

That sort of attitude is part of the problem. Such dismissive, morally certain, attitudes and posturing accelerates polarisation. You need to be able to zoom out, even just for a moment or two, and see the patterns at play.

What do you hope to achieve by being so dismissive? And what will that 'achievement' look like in practice?

The difference seems, to me, to be that you personally support one action or cause but not the other. When actors attached to causes you support disrupt, occupy, protest and burn things - that o.k - it is just legal protest, but when actors you don't support try to do the same in their own way - you say it is an outrageous affront to democracy.

What are your thoughts on America funding Ukraine - that's another 'foreign war', isn't it?

😂
Alright, Elon?! 👍😁

But only for one parliamentary session and not if it is a) a finance bill and b ) in the government's manifesto i.e.is an election commitment.

NO, it was not mirrored, however much I disagree with the Gaza protests.
Thats a disengenious minimising take.
We have not seen anything like the capitol insurrection in my lifetime in the west.
Nor can I think of a similar in living memory. To downplay it like that is outrageous whomever one votes for.

So, no actual evidence then? Just believing what you are told. Okie dokie.

Here's his tweet on that day.

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1346912780700577792?lang=en

"I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!
6:13 AM · Jan 7, 2021"

There have been more than 1,200 people charged, more than 460 imprisoned for their role in the attack on the Capitol, including 213 who pleaded to felonies that include assaults on federal officers, obstructing law enforcement and seditious conspiracy. Trump said, as of very recently, he'd free all of them.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-pardon-jan-6-capitol-rioters-rcna149900

Oh, and Trump has also been found guilty of 23 felonies himself.

Which is irrelevant to the claims being made.

As I stated, correctly, Trump left office without inciting violence.

The worst thing he did was to refuse to meet up with Biden and show him around the Whitehouse.

People believe what other people had told them. If there was the tiniest whiff of evidence that he incited violence or refused to step down it would be right here on this thread in triplicate.

It is paranoia and frankly nuts to suggest that when he gets elected again (and its increasingly looking that way) he will refuse to leave power if he is voted out again. And it is based on precisely nothing.

If you have a problem with some of his supporters, aim it at them, with his policies, discuss them - but making shit up isn't helping.

As I stated, correctly, Trump left office without inciting violence.

You didn’t say that. You said:

Trump left office with no threats or issues last time.

Which is patently untrue. A storming of the Capitol in his name and subsequent charges directed at him for his actions, based on a bipartisan review of the event concluding Trump had a seven part plan to cause unrest easily fit the definition of “issues”.

Even if you disagree with the findings, to say he “left without issues” as you said originally is objectively false.

Had you/the US, seen a real insurrection you would know that the invasion of the Capitol was not one. Where was the armed back-up from the army, or the bureaucratic back-up? It was a protest, just like the Gaza protests (though why it is virtuous to support rapists and murderers but wicked to support people who feel disenfranchised, I am not sure).