Susie Green (former Mermaids CEO) sets up clinic to bypass ban on puberty blockers for children

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https://inews.co.uk/news/mermaids-ceo-clinic-avoid-ban-puberty-blockers-children-3179213

The main route is enabled by a simple, glaring omission in the legislation: the government could have banned the importation of puberty blockers but did not.

Green told i she sought legal advice from David Lock KC, one of the lawyers challenging the ban in the high court, and prior to that had contacted Jolyon Maugham, a KC, and a campaigner for trans rights. He is the director of the Good Law Project, which is supporting the high court case.

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Green, using this advice, established a route by which she believes her clinic can help provide puberty blockers to under-18s. First, Anne Health is hiring clinicians – nurses, doctors, and endocrinologists – who are not based in the UK (even though the company is) which means their specialist doctors in the European Economic Area are free to write prescriptions and “are regulated by their own medical bodies outside of the UK”.

Then, once prescribed, because the ban relates to England, Wales and Scotland but not Northern Ireland, the prescriptions will be sent to alternative addresses in Northern Ireland, from where patients from mainland Britain can collect them. “We’ve got a network of Northern Ireland families who are willing to take receipt of medication sent to them,” said Green. “The families just need to go over there and the kids need to get the medication and if they bring it back it exploits this legal loophole.”

I think the prescriptions will be sent to NI using fake NI addresses. The prescriptions will be filled in NI and the patients will travel over to pick them up.

What will Starmer’s government do with this I wonder?

As her intended victims are children, it will mean parents will have to circumnavigate the NHS guidelines in order to knowingly chemically castrate their children. I believe that any parent who takes this path should be charged with neglect.

This is surely child abuse and I would expect any social services child protection team to act accordingly. (Given how captured the regulator is, this could get interesting).

A child protection team couldn't stop a parent from doing this without a court order and I can't see that meeting threshold if there is a legal loophole. The loophole needs to be closed.

Would love to know are the people in NI who would agree to take in these packages aware of the legal liability situation they're putting themselves in?

There are different regulations in NI for import of goods from the EU but thats for personal use, otherwise all EU goods would just come via NI now without a need to go through the checks and pay the extra fees.

If suddenly Joe Bloggs in Belfast is getting tens or hundreds of packages a week from pharmacies abroad someones going to notice. If suddenly loads of different names are receving packages from a pharmacy abroad at an address again someones going to notice.

These are the rules for importing medicines for your own personal use from Health NI:
"Personal import and export licensing
The importation and exportation of patients’ own controlled drugs (that is, medicines lawfully prescribed to patients who are personally taking their own controlled drugs out of or into the United Kingdom) is overseen and administered by Drug Licensing at the Home Office.
Telephone 020 7025 0484 or email [email protected]"

I have been told that the drug will be administered to the patient in NI to avoid any issue with crossing into rest of UK whilst carrying it. It's once a month, so do-able.

Nobody is going to fly themselves and their 14 year old to Belfast every month for an injection.

They also seem to be completely dispensing with any pretence at medical oversight of this (ie just like GenderGP)

How is this fucking child abusing ghoul not in prison?

Well I've had my first ever post removed from MN, it seems that highlighting what Susie Green did to her own child (which she talks about quite openly) is unacceptable on a parenting website 🙄

Yes. So many parents now don’t have the courage to face their own errors.
I fully accept that most will have been doing what they genuinely thought was the best (under enormous influence) but to continue in the face of the Cass report is all about them and not their children. Of course the enormous influence is still there trying it’s best to hang on to disciples but surely the vast majority should reconsider if they can be honest with themselves.

Hopefully this will demonstrate to the current government that the people involved in supplying children with dangerous, unevidenced medications have no compunction in doing whatever it takes to circumvent the spirit of the law.

If there is a loophole, they will exploit it.

If there is a grey area, they will move into it.

They will do whatever it takes to get what they want.

This is not in the best interests of the children they purport to care about.

Given that prescriptions for NI residents are free, I would have thought the department of health's fraud people would be very interested in that proposal!

Actually ignore me, presumably they'd be private prescriptions so that wouldn't be relevant anyway.

Utterly incorrigible - clearly trying to cover her own arse, and create an iinccome.

It's a nonsense. £200 joining fee, £50 a month PLUS the cost of blood tests PLUS the cost of the meds each month PLUS the costs of the travel. How many people will be able to afford that never mind actually pay it in reality? It'll be bust before the year is out.

Depending on the drug, it might be monthly to every 6 months.

Like PPs, I'm surprised how this might work. If it were this straightforward, I would think the Thyroid organisations would have set this up years ago for people who want (say) T3 or Armour Thyroid.

It is very hard to see how any pharmacist could fill a Susie Green generated prescription while meeting the PSNI guidance.

She’s just revealed ins and outs of her business (which is pretty stupid). I doubt this operation will last long

From the NHS website :
FGM is illegal in the UK.
It's an offence to:

• perform FGM (including taking a child abroad for FGM)
• help a girl perform FGM on herself in or outside the UK
• help anyone perform FGM in the UK
• help anyone perform FGM outside the UK on a UK national or resident
• fail to protect a girl for whom you're responsible from FGM

Anyone who performs FGM can face up to 14 years in prison. Anyone found guilty of failing to protect a girl from FGM can face up to 7 years in prison.

Surely, all that needs to happen to create a law that closes the loophole in the case of 'gender' medicine is that the wording of the FGM law is amended so that FGM is replaced with text about buying or administering puberty blockers and enabling access to sex 'reassignment' surgery, and the word 'girl' is replaced by 'child'.

Any FWR posters in NI should probably start writing letters to their representatives - NI are behind on the XL Bully ban but still introducing it - no reason they can’t enact a PB ban similarly a little behind the other three UK nations.

This needs to be treated like fgm.

Hadn't read full thread.

DrSoupDragonsFriend absolutely that.

Will do that. There's been relatively little response to Cass over here (possibly because the whole health service is such a basket case at the moment), but the health minister is unionist and they tend not to be in favour of gender ideology, so I would have expected them to follow the rest of the UK on this. I read somewhere that there have been no new patients accepted onto the endocrine pathway in NI since 2020.