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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Offensive stickering

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crayonsharpeners · 15/07/2024 10:17

Saw this posted on Ovarit. Can anyone confirm if this is a real sticker sold by KJK and SFW? Awful messaging if so. Hoping it's some TRA hoax.

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mach2 · 15/07/2024 23:36

The present age seems obsessed with totems over palpable harms. Thus people lose their minds when the piss is taken out of a rectangle of cloth.

CassieMaddox · 16/07/2024 00:11

JanesLittleGirl · 15/07/2024 22:25

So you believe that "Super Pride" hasn't had a deleterious impact on women's rights. OK

I think the copied tweet is outrageous and nothing to do with harm to womens rights

CassieMaddox · 16/07/2024 00:12

mach2 · 15/07/2024 23:36

The present age seems obsessed with totems over palpable harms. Thus people lose their minds when the piss is taken out of a rectangle of cloth.

Yes. The absolute uproar when Nike changed the colour of the St George Cross for example. Flag shagging is weird

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 16/07/2024 07:34

You're literally arguing against yourself. As usual.

EdithStourton · 16/07/2024 08:23

RhymesWithOrange · 15/07/2024 17:41

There's a lot of LGB people and allies who feel unhappy and alienated by the "progress" flag and the Pride™️ movement. There's a lot of women who feel that Pride™️ has been weaponised against women and girls. That's what that sticker represents. It's not meant to be homophobic, as far as I'm concerned.

I had a convo with a local gay friend just prior to Pride day in the small town in which he lives. He eye-rolled, pulled faces, expressed sympathy for those living in the centre of said town - and then when Pride hit, he went out for most of the day to avoid it. He doesn't understand why all the + got added to the LGB.

That said, I think the progress flag would have been a better shout for the sticker as a lot of people still see the rainbow flag itself in a positive light, seeing nothing more than it's original gay rights meaning.

But I can see where KJK is coming from and don't disagree with her overall sentiment.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 16/07/2024 08:31

I have seen people argue on here that objecting to surrogacy is homophobic.

That would justify the image.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/07/2024 08:44

Thanks for this, OP. Someone I know intimately may well purchase some of these and apply them to what used to be the 🧍‍♀️Loos in their local supermarkets.

Datun · 16/07/2024 08:45

Always interesting to see the people who have no problem at all with the actions and harms but really object to the offensiveness of anyone mentioning and pointing it out. Probably because those actions and harms can only happen without sunlight. And often because those people are in fact deeply uncomfortable with what they're enabling if they have to actually think about it.

Exactly. Women pointing out the issue being way worse than the issue itself is so revealing.

Although the OP doesn't appear in the slightest bit uncomfortable. Disingenuous, thinks everyone's an idiot, yes. Uncomfortable, no.

Frankly I'd be bit more uncomfortable with the pretend shock horror 'who wrote this', when it's bloody written down the side.

Has the TRA 'let's bash KJK' creative team suddenly resigned?

Datun · 16/07/2024 08:47

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/07/2024 08:44

Thanks for this, OP. Someone I know intimately may well purchase some of these and apply them to what used to be the 🧍‍♀️Loos in their local supermarkets.

Loos, yes!

What used to be 'Women's'.

And there won't be anyone who doesn't get it, either.

crayonsharpeners · 16/07/2024 10:12

CassieMaddox · 15/07/2024 11:55

Rainbows are associated with the gay community (homosexuals, for avoidance of doubt). Many would find the visual implication that gayness is harming women to be homophobic. Especially people who aren't in the guts of the GC debate.

The "pride protest" pack in general could look quite homophobic and I wish she would stop encouraging it.

Yes exactly this.

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Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:18

Why would it be a trans hoax? It graphically describes how women are being treated by the trans lobby and their allies.

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:20

mach2 · 15/07/2024 23:36

The present age seems obsessed with totems over palpable harms. Thus people lose their minds when the piss is taken out of a rectangle of cloth.

There is no piece of cloth the destruction of which is going to make me lose my mind. Leave cult-vexillology to the US, please.

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:23

ToBeOrNotToBee · 15/07/2024 11:49

Looks pretty inoffensive to me

How? It's exactly what is happening with trans ideology - and now we have a government that has appointed women who think some women have a penis to positions supposedly supporting women. The image is from 1984 - a boot forever crushing a human face. Very apt.

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:25

Cailleach1 · 15/07/2024 12:00

The only quibble I’d have is that TQ etc. etc. etc. activism usually misrepresent the rainbow and use only 6 colours (rather than the correct 7), and omit the indigo. Standing for Women has used all seven colours of the rainbow.

I don’t know when it became a thing to misrepresent the colours of the rainbow. Or why.

The rainbow flag changed to 6 colours in the eighties. The 'progress' flag adds pink and blue.

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:28

MarieDeGournay · 15/07/2024 12:59

I wouldn't use the word 'offensive' but I agree with Lamelie, I think that the progress flag would make the point much better than the rainbow flag.
I'd like LWS to have a rethink and redesign the stickers, but that's unlikely.

There is an element among gay men that is anti-women. Those same gay men are the ones supporting trans, I suspect.

Catsmere · 16/07/2024 10:30

It’s not a progress flag at all, it’s regress. Anti-women, anti homosexuality, what’s progressive about it?

CassieMaddox · 16/07/2024 10:31

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:25

The rainbow flag changed to 6 colours in the eighties. The 'progress' flag adds pink and blue.

This is interesting:
By 1979, the Pride flag had collapsed into the six colours we know today. The reason for this collapse was solely down to production issues, mostly pricing. Back in the late 70s, pink dye was prohibitively expensive

https://jlloyd.co.uk/behind-the-colours-why-the-rainbow-is-the-symbol-of-lgbt-pride/

Why is the Rainbow a Symbol for LGBT Pride? - Joshua Lloyd

With Pride month just gone, you may have noticed a lot more rainbows around your neighborhood or most likely scattered around social media. Many of us know the rainbow is the symbol of LGBT pride although not all of us know why or how this was even ado...

https://jlloyd.co.uk/behind-the-colours-why-the-rainbow-is-the-symbol-of-lgbt-pride

Grammarnut · 16/07/2024 10:33

mach2 · 15/07/2024 20:05

DO NOT click this link if easily offended.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/06/27/12/59573601-10956787-image-a-71_1656328390070.jpg

Clue: the graphic uses a design flaw in a particular flag to reference another flag that was common in Europe from 1933-45.

Neat. Also accurate.

CassieMaddox · 16/07/2024 10:37

Seriously. We are going full TRA call everyone a Nazi now are we?

I find that tweet deeply offensive

PeppercornMill · 16/07/2024 10:48

What I like about KJK is this sort of messaging is very bold and in your face. It gets people talking, she isn't afraid to ruffle some feathers.

People feign outrage over this, but are very happy with pictures of AK-47s in the trans flag saying "Shoot TERFs" etc.

The rainbow flag is now co-opted by multi-nationals etc, who just want the Pink Pound, you have the empty virtue signalling in Regent Street, London, by a mayor who sits by and does nothing when there are real physical homophobic assaults in his city.

Datun · 16/07/2024 11:05

The OP must've missed all the threads on here of lesbians saying if they see the rainbow flag portrayed, their heart sinks, because they know it is anti them.

If posters don't like it, take it up with the political wing of the trans movement who set out to deliberately force team the rainbow flag with transgenderism.

crayonsharpeners · 16/07/2024 11:13

It's not just this sticker, here's one where the theme is LGB are groomers: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcU2kflLXdR/

Why defend KJK on this? It's a ghastly message to send. If you're preparing your "what she really meant was ..." comment how about sit back and have a rethink.

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Sloejelly · 16/07/2024 11:17

crayonsharpeners · 16/07/2024 11:13

It's not just this sticker, here's one where the theme is LGB are groomers: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcU2kflLXdR/

Why defend KJK on this? It's a ghastly message to send. If you're preparing your "what she really meant was ..." comment how about sit back and have a rethink.

Because Disney is grooming young children into gender ideology?

There is a disingenuous thread on this thread that somehow ‘TQ+’ is nothing to do with the rainbows they have taken over and dominated for years. That all of a sudden rainbows now just mean LGB.

Wumblewimble · 16/07/2024 11:32

I,ve seen women's rights stickers in toilets . Graffiti seems to be making a come back. KJK isn't the only woman who makes stickers. I've seen different ones as well.
edit to say but only in captured institutions not independent businesses.

Datun · 16/07/2024 11:34

crayonsharpeners · 16/07/2024 11:13

It's not just this sticker, here's one where the theme is LGB are groomers: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcU2kflLXdR/

Why defend KJK on this? It's a ghastly message to send. If you're preparing your "what she really meant was ..." comment how about sit back and have a rethink.

You're a little late to try and pretend that the trans lobby haven't captured numerous organisations.

You'll might as well gasp oh my God, are you saying the government is grooming children, the NHS is grooming children, schools are grooming children.

M&S did a rainbow sandwich last year. Better get gasping.

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