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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brilliant Transwoman on Channel5 now

125 replies

Heavenssakes · 10/07/2024 12:20

Really likeable , down to earth transwoman on Storm Huntley now.
Really open discussion, for once.

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EinekleineKatze · 10/07/2024 15:00

Heavenssakes · 10/07/2024 14:15

Yes, Katy said they use disabled facilities.

He uses disabled facilities.

IdealHomeExhibition · 10/07/2024 15:09

FelineGood76 · 10/07/2024 14:33

I seem to remember him talking about his new vagina and claimed to have a functioning clitoris.
Nope.

Thank you. I wish I wasn't able to read now.

OldCrone · 10/07/2024 15:46

Heavenssakes · 10/07/2024 14:15

Yes, Katy said they use disabled facilities.

Is he disabled?

illinivich · 10/07/2024 15:50

He's similar to a lot of men in that he's suggesting that he has aged out of extreme fetish behavour and expects to be treated as a non man because of that and surgery.

He saying that he recognises he was dreadful 5 years ago, but thats in the past so there's no harm now.

Its basically the same story - the resonable trans is what he wants to do.

Heavenssakes · 10/07/2024 15:51

@OldCrone
Yes

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Melroses · 10/07/2024 15:54

He just clever at batting for his own side. Worth watching for that. Opens your eyes. Look at previous threads to understand critical thinking. Learn to bat for your own side.

OldCrone · 10/07/2024 15:55

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 10/07/2024 14:26

Said they used disabled toilets.

Regarding pp above about why Storm asked about underwear.. it's because the caller said the TW genitalia were flapping about in the women's changing rooms. She was clarifying why the TW would be naked.

It's obvious why the TW was naked isn't it?

WearyLady · 10/07/2024 16:02

IMO he's just an attention-seeker. He'll say whatever it takes to get the spotlight on him. He's not worth listening to.

IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 17:54

I posted on the thread about Anneliese Dodds about this as a friend who watched the programme told me about it.

The caller who phoned in about being exposed to (not sure what phrase was used) is one of the nurses who is suing their NHS employer.

So just for that getting a public airing it good.

There is this clip, but not the whole discussion. Sorry its on twitter and know some aren't. Not sure how to make it shareable. https://x.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1811006030064574729

IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 17:57

Have just found this free thread reader. Think it has worked.
https://unrollnow.com/status/1811006030064574729

WickedSerious · 10/07/2024 18:10

I saw the Heretics interview,creepy bloke.

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2024 18:41

Melroses · 10/07/2024 15:54

He just clever at batting for his own side. Worth watching for that. Opens your eyes. Look at previous threads to understand critical thinking. Learn to bat for your own side.

Sage advice.

cavalier · 10/07/2024 19:01

ivybridget · 10/07/2024 13:03

I saw this. I think her name is Katy Jon Went. Actually one of the most reasonable trans people I've heard speaking. Seems to agree with JKR's stance about safe spaces and advocates for a third space so as not to take away from women or from disabled people.
The programme also had a caller from one of the nurses who's being forced to change theatre scrubs in the same changing room as a man.

That’s the problem … there’s an undercurrent of trouble makers making it look like this is their stance where it isn’t and now it’s out there there will be some wronguns taking advantage and using it all as a licence to perv … I feel awful for them

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2024 20:43

Feel awful for whom?

IwantToRetire · 10/07/2024 21:00

I posted this on the other thread and think the main issue is about C5 and how it has had to change.

Jeremy Vine that this programme is a sub set of, got the programme after the previous presenter was sacked for not apologising for a guest saying a TW is a man.

So JV fressh from BBC training was always gushing about TW and constantly had Bergdorf to comment. And of course lead trans ally little OJ is always on. And Storm Huntly, unfortunately, just followed (to keep her job?).

So the fact that 5? 6? 7? years later they have anyone who is able to talk about the difference between biological males and females is a step forward.

If you want tv to be more representative of gender critical politics then the best thing is to comment on C5's facebook page or email or tweet and suggest next time they have someone who actually is at the receiving end of trans ideology.

Like the brave nurse who phoned in, and so that we dont have to rely on the likes of Carole Malone (might be wrong name) to speak up for biological women.

Very easy for anyone on twitter or facebook to comment.

Its about as slow as it has been to get the Labour Party to accept that women have a voice. Neither the media nor the Labour Party are going to do this willlingly.

Toseland · 10/07/2024 21:29

EinekleineKatze · 10/07/2024 15:00

He uses disabled facilities.

Oh really?! Come on - what have we learnt about these men - honestly.

yesmen · 10/07/2024 21:48

MalagaNights · 10/07/2024 14:28

I've met Katy Jon.
He was pleasant and seemed to genuinely be making an effort to understand women's concerns.
He admits to having changed his mind on lots of the trans issues over the past five years.

He's quite open about his experience. He had a sexual development disorder I think and found transitioning helped him accept this. He now says he's asexual.

He was also very self absorbed and liked talking about himself. Like lots of men. I think he loves the attention of being on the telly etc.
Like lots of people do I guess.

He recently did an interview with Andrew Gold if you want to hear more from him.

I just watched that interview.

He does not really answer the harder questions.

yesmen · 10/07/2024 21:50

Melroses · 10/07/2024 15:54

He just clever at batting for his own side. Worth watching for that. Opens your eyes. Look at previous threads to understand critical thinking. Learn to bat for your own side.

I so need critical thinking - could you oint me in the right direction please?

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2024 22:16

Here you can watch KJW expound about the size of his breasts, his sister's breasts, his friend's breasts, how he really has no choice but to use women's changing rooms, how wonderful his 'clitoris' is, the shape of air hostesses breasts, etc.

February 2024.

I Tell Trans Person A Very Difficult TRUTH (Heated!) - Katy Jon Went (4K) | heretics. 29

Podcaster Andrew Gold debates trans person Katy Jon Went about trans activism, changing rooms, sports and autogynephilia (AGP). The pair have a fun and inter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtyG84oV4c

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2024 22:18

'do you masturbate when crossdressed ... well I suppose I occasionally masturbate but it's such an effort is hardly worth it, um, and I guess do I do it when cross dress, I guess I do because I'm doing the self ID where you have to live in you have to live as a woman for two years anyway so I guess, yes, there must be some kick out of it a little bit'

Helleofabore · 10/07/2024 22:41

illinivich · 10/07/2024 15:50

He's similar to a lot of men in that he's suggesting that he has aged out of extreme fetish behavour and expects to be treated as a non man because of that and surgery.

He saying that he recognises he was dreadful 5 years ago, but thats in the past so there's no harm now.

Its basically the same story - the resonable trans is what he wants to do.

That is my take as well.

WomensRightsRenegade · 10/07/2024 23:35

Why is ANY women calling KJW ‘she’ and ‘her’? How little self-respect do you have to have!

PurpleSparkledPixie · 11/07/2024 01:48

WomensRightsRenegade · 10/07/2024 23:35

Why is ANY women calling KJW ‘she’ and ‘her’? How little self-respect do you have to have!

Depends on which moderator is watching. Sometimes you have to hold your nose so you can get the rest of your post across without deletions or warnings. Nothing to do with self respect.

itispersonal · 11/07/2024 05:59

I watched the Twitter clip and on the face of that I think they did a good job at expressing the difficulties of being a gender questioning child and bringing the GC side across without it being labelled as a 'culture war', bigoted etc!!!KJW said they agree with the Cass report and PBs aren't a pause for GQ children and that children need to go through their puberty! Spoke a lot about non binary and a 3rd space.

Vanessa feltz was on yesterday with gyles brandreth and their line was the old one of 'be kind' to trans woman when discussing JKR and Annelise Dodd

HootyMcBooby · 11/07/2024 09:37

Shocker - two upper class twits who will never have to share a refuge or hospital ward with a person claiming to be the opposite sex, tell the plebs what to think.