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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

how do they represent the queer community?

56 replies

dacdser · 07/07/2024 11:19

A genuine question.
I don't get it.
Is the bride female and the groom male? If so, where's the queer element? I just don't get it.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/gallery/madeleine-gerrick-and-j-winkelried-wedding?utmsource=facebook&utmmmedium=social&utmcampaign=dhfacebook&utmmcontent=null&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3MzMIFxjciAM0hv1qRiLTt4FDe1R7rl3pfu8SzcfQ2HbHDZm5SC9CkAC0aemm6gG6tmBBvpT8ZshX-tV6w

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kiterunning · 07/07/2024 11:27

Oh god talk about self obsession..

ghislaine · 07/07/2024 11:28

I think they are both female - at least that’s what I take J’s identity as “trans masc non-binary” to mean.

Ramblingnamechanger · 07/07/2024 11:32

Lesbians I imagine.

TWETMIRF · 07/07/2024 11:35

They both look like women to me

CocoapuffPuff · 07/07/2024 11:35

Didn't read the article as I like the brain cells I have left, but I'm guessing there's a whole loaf of main character syndrome bread, buttered with self indulgence margarine, and topped with a little frisson of gender jam.

They looked like they had a brilliant wedding day/weekend/week/whatever.

AnnaMagnani · 07/07/2024 11:43

Isn't this a normal lesbian wedding with one femme and one butch?

Only now the butch one is non-binary.

dacdser · 07/07/2024 11:43

yeah, it does look like a beautiful wedding and they look happy but the mangling of language is confusing. Very.

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dacdser · 07/07/2024 11:44

AnnaMagnani · 07/07/2024 11:43

Isn't this a normal lesbian wedding with one femme and one butch?

Only now the butch one is non-binary.

yep. Butch, masculine presenting, non feminine presenting lesbians don't seem to exist anymore.

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 07/07/2024 11:44

So: Very very rich gay Jewish woman marries non Jewish ( but beautiful ) woman after she has converted to Judaism ( only saying this as they bang on about it a LOT in the article). Marries in ther parents home/ synagogue in Florida, in spite of a bizarre claim that it is ‘illegal’ to mention the word ‘gay’ in that state (shom mistake shurely ) , and that New York is where they feel ‘safe’.

Wedding expenditure off the scale , minute details published in glossy mag , no worries about attracting attention even though the world is against you and makes you feel unsafe ….

Yep, it’s queer.

MarieDeGournay · 07/07/2024 11:45

AnnaMagnani · 07/07/2024 11:43

Isn't this a normal lesbian wedding with one femme and one butch?

Only now the butch one is non-binary.

How many 'normal lesbian weddings' have you been to, AnnaMagnani??🤔

suggestionsplease1 · 07/07/2024 11:47

Wow what a lot of time people have to devote to bitterness on a Sunday morning 😂

ButtSurgery · 07/07/2024 11:51

J has clearly had a double mastectomy (scar on chest visible in photos before the tattoos a were added).

SoundTheSirens · 07/07/2024 11:59

MarieDeGournay · 07/07/2024 11:45

How many 'normal lesbian weddings' have you been to, AnnaMagnani??🤔

I’m not @AnnaMagnani but I don’t understand the thrust of this question. I’ve been to two lesbian weddings, very different in style and apparent budget (just as the straight weddings I’ve been to differed from each other in those respects) but there was no genderwoo, no medically-unnecessary mastectomy scars, no “non-binary identities” no claims to be pushing the boundaries of queerness…just two couples, who happened to be lesbian couples, pledging their love for each other in front of their families and friends.

Gay marriage is pretty well normalised these days, had that passed you by?

suggestionsplease1 · 07/07/2024 12:15

SoundTheSirens · 07/07/2024 11:59

I’m not @AnnaMagnani but I don’t understand the thrust of this question. I’ve been to two lesbian weddings, very different in style and apparent budget (just as the straight weddings I’ve been to differed from each other in those respects) but there was no genderwoo, no medically-unnecessary mastectomy scars, no “non-binary identities” no claims to be pushing the boundaries of queerness…just two couples, who happened to be lesbian couples, pledging their love for each other in front of their families and friends.

Gay marriage is pretty well normalised these days, had that passed you by?

Good for you!

Good for them!

Other people in the world are different, who knew!

SoundTheSirens · 07/07/2024 12:27

suggestionsplease1 · 07/07/2024 12:15

Good for you!

Good for them!

Other people in the world are different, who knew!

I’m not the one implying lesbian weddings are somehow abnormal or indirectly advocating that having healthy breasts removed is a good thing, so take your childish sarcasm elsewhere.

Zeugma · 07/07/2024 12:32

I mistook this for an entry for Pseud’s Corner on first reading, but no. It’s in deadly earnest.

‘Being non-binary, I’ve always had challenges finding formal clothes that don’t make me feel like I’m in a costume. A few years ago, I came across the designer Emily Bode. I got a few pieces of hers and from the second I put them on, I had never felt so affirmed in my gender identity, which is something I’ve never experienced but had always been searching for.” They wore custom Bode shorts and a shacket made out of an unused army infirmary blanket to exchange vows.

DialSquare · 07/07/2024 12:35

I didn't read it and only looked at the photos but my first thought was it looks like a very expensive lesbian wedding.

My second thought was that I wouldn't mind being 2 bob behind the person who paid for it.

heldinadream · 07/07/2024 12:37

Zeugma · 07/07/2024 12:32

I mistook this for an entry for Pseud’s Corner on first reading, but no. It’s in deadly earnest.

‘Being non-binary, I’ve always had challenges finding formal clothes that don’t make me feel like I’m in a costume. A few years ago, I came across the designer Emily Bode. I got a few pieces of hers and from the second I put them on, I had never felt so affirmed in my gender identity, which is something I’ve never experienced but had always been searching for.” They wore custom Bode shorts and a shacket made out of an unused army infirmary blanket to exchange vows.

Presumably they identify as a war-wounded soldier?
I have very few words to describe how utterly narcissistic I find this, all of it, but the shaket made of an unused army infirmary blanket just completely takes the biscuit.

dacdser · 07/07/2024 12:43

suggestionsplease1 · 07/07/2024 11:47

Wow what a lot of time people have to devote to bitterness on a Sunday morning 😂

not bitterness, just incredulity at the identitinarianism and language confusion

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suggestionsplease1 · 07/07/2024 12:44

SoundTheSirens · 07/07/2024 12:27

I’m not the one implying lesbian weddings are somehow abnormal or indirectly advocating that having healthy breasts removed is a good thing, so take your childish sarcasm elsewhere.

Who exactly has implied that lesbian weddings are not normal?

Let's see this thread for exactly what it is; an excuse to make fun of and bitch about a couple on their happy day.

I can tell you right now, this couple couldn't give two hoots for the bitterness and malice that you or anyone has for them.

I imagine they are far, far happier than the people who see fit to devote their Sunday mornings to expressions of hatred and vitriol for people they have never even met. What a way to live a life eh?

dacdser · 07/07/2024 12:46

hey @suggestionsplease1 you're on the feminism and gender board. I'm sure you can find a Stonewall forum for happy unicorn thoughts elsewhere...

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Cosmosforbreakfast · 07/07/2024 12:49

The language is confusing. Nothing unusual about a same sex wedding or a lavish wedding or many outfit changes.

suggestionsplease1 · 07/07/2024 12:49

dacdser · 07/07/2024 12:46

hey @suggestionsplease1 you're on the feminism and gender board. I'm sure you can find a Stonewall forum for happy unicorn thoughts elsewhere...

😂 FWR spends most of their time hand-wringing about freedom of speech.

Are you saying this only works one way? 😆

cupcaske123 · 07/07/2024 12:50

dacdser · 07/07/2024 12:46

hey @suggestionsplease1 you're on the feminism and gender board. I'm sure you can find a Stonewall forum for happy unicorn thoughts elsewhere...

What's so feminist about sniggering over a wedding?

dacdser · 07/07/2024 12:55

if you scroll back you you can see that I commented on how beautiful it looked. The question was about the use of language.
And yes, people on this board are critical
of unnecessary mastectomies. Having seen my Mum and sister endure them for breast cancer, the idea of having one for cosmetic/identity purposes offends me.

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