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Shocking recording - Northumberland Police don't take threats to POW candidate seriously ice

56 replies

DerekFaker · 05/07/2024 07:26

POW Candidate reported threats she had received to Norhumbria Police. They didn't hang up the phone properly,and this is what she recorded:

https://x.com/FKASerioJosh/status/1808950026703437825?t=KD5DqrmIOyNW0EnpjSsM7w&s=19

x.com

https://x.com/FKASerioJosh/status/1808950026703437825?s=19&t=KD5DqrmIOyNW0EnpjSsM7w

OP posts:
ANameChangePresents · 07/07/2024 00:12

I guess we'll find out. But guess what? It's out of the bag now. We all now know said police force employ utter scum.

Datun · 07/07/2024 00:12

Christinapple

I know you want the police to arrest this woman for catching them red-handed in their illegal discrimination.

But they're not. They're investigating themselves for their disgusting behaviour.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/07/2024 04:36

Christinapple · 06/07/2024 23:52

Tiktok video unavailable?

"Northumbria Police have not suggested that I have done anything wrong in recording the conversation between officers"

But what about uploading their private conversation you heard over the phoneline online publicly to multiple social media websites?

"But what about uploading their private conversation you heard over the phoneline online publicly to multiple social media websites?"

Talk to the people who uploaded about 2 mins of a 10 minute recording to social media websites. It wasn't me, as you must know if you have checked out the links that I included in my post on the other thread. I am sure that they are quaking in their boots.

No idea why the TikTok video has been taken down - I didn't post it.

However, there seem to be several copies uploaded to X by other people, eg.
https://x.com/FKASerioJosh/status/1808950026703437825

Northumbria Police do not seem to think that I have done anything wrong. As you are so convinced that I have committed a crime, maybe you would do better taking it up with the Crown Prosecution Service rather than wasting your time chuntering on about it on Mumsnet where, frankly, no one gives a damn.

*Userbongbongbong - *Despite her unacceptable behaviour, I really have a lot of sympathy for the Officer who said, "I actually agree with some of her thoughts, but I obviously don't go spouting them off and put me face on a leaflet alongside it."

She obviously knows that she would be in trouble if she dared to make her views public. This is due to top-down imposition of a toxic, pseudoscientific, reality-denying ideology that puts the official view of the Police at odds with the vast majority of the population.

The next thing she said seems to be an attempt at face-saving bravado after her confession of submission and moral weakness. She has already acknowledged that I told her that I was not asking for police protection and that the only reason I was not out leafleting myself was that I had Covid, yet she boasts that she is braver than me:

"Or if I did I would have the balls to back it up."

It does make me wonder how much of her anger towards me was due to cognitive dissonance? I was never angry with her but I have become increasingly angry with the upper echelons of the Police, on her behalf and on behalf of all the other officers who have to pretend that they believe the utter bullshit they are force-fed.

I have no sympathy at all for the other officers who we hear voicing their appalling opinions.

You have my sympathy and my thanks for clarifying the irrelevant distraction of RIPA.

Christinapple - "The stories been debated to death on the other thread, trying to find a new angle of conversation."

Your "new angle" has now been debated to death on this one.

The previous thread on this subject has more info than this one:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5112176-pow-candidate-mocked-by-northumbria-police-for-reporting-threat

It is always confusing when there are multiple threads on the same subject. It happens but could I politely request that if you discover any more "new angles" that you raise them on the other thread?

WarriorN · 07/07/2024 07:47

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 00:04

It is very possible for both parties to have done something wrong.

Well I know Liz and she really hasn't.

And the police appear to agree.

ANameChangePresents · 07/07/2024 08:13

It's never wrong to expose abusers in positions of power.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 07/07/2024 09:35

Christinapple · 06/07/2024 23:52

Tiktok video unavailable?

"Northumbria Police have not suggested that I have done anything wrong in recording the conversation between officers"

But what about uploading their private conversation you heard over the phoneline online publicly to multiple social media websites?

Same old same old. The threatened woman is at fault for speaking out, not the one who said they wanted to punch her. The call handler was at work, not having a 'private conversation' - what they said is gross misconduct and probably criminal.

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 14:49

"No idea why the TikTok video has been taken down - I didn't post it."

I'll help you out. Tiktok doesn't permit the uploading of illegal content, such as the recording of a private conversation over a phoneline without the consent of both parties. It was removed after being reported.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/07/2024 14:58

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 14:49

"No idea why the TikTok video has been taken down - I didn't post it."

I'll help you out. Tiktok doesn't permit the uploading of illegal content, such as the recording of a private conversation over a phoneline without the consent of both parties. It was removed after being reported.

"It was removed after being reported"

You seem to know a lot about this. How do you know it was reported?

TWETMIRF · 07/07/2024 14:59

Christinapple is on a one person crusade to report everything they don't like to every possible authority going. I'd say there's a good chance that Christinapple reported this to TikTok

Datun · 07/07/2024 15:07

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 14:49

"No idea why the TikTok video has been taken down - I didn't post it."

I'll help you out. Tiktok doesn't permit the uploading of illegal content, such as the recording of a private conversation over a phoneline without the consent of both parties. It was removed after being reported.

Oh yeah, cos that would be unusual, wouldn't it? Social media sites taking down gender critical viewpoints, banning women and compromising their posting.

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 15:55

Datun · 07/07/2024 15:07

Oh yeah, cos that would be unusual, wouldn't it? Social media sites taking down gender critical viewpoints, banning women and compromising their posting.

Violation found because it contained illegal content, nothing to do with what you call "gender critical viewpoint".

Datun · 07/07/2024 16:02

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 15:55

Violation found because it contained illegal content, nothing to do with what you call "gender critical viewpoint".

Of course, nothing to do with a whistleblower taping police being discriminatory.

who then start to investigate themselves!

WarriorN · 07/07/2024 16:19

Liz didn't post that on TikTok

Datun · 07/07/2024 16:22

Also TikTok might find themselves in trouble if they start accusing women of a crime which the police have not.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/07/2024 16:36

Datun · 07/07/2024 16:22

Also TikTok might find themselves in trouble if they start accusing women of a crime which the police have not.

The thoroughly reputable News Agency involved, who Northumbria Police are aware without complaint, were in possession of the audio recording, might also have something to say if they have been falsely accused of a crime.

This could be a whole new story, about interference with legitimate journalism.

SinnerBoy · 07/07/2024 16:41

Userbongbongbong · 05/07/2024 20:54

I've name changed for this because if you work for the police you cannot express any GC views, not anywhere and definitely not in writing.

Thanks for that explanation and the one about RIPA, organisations and members of the public, which Cassie seems determined to ignore!

SinnerBoy · 07/07/2024 16:45

WarriorN · Yesterday 21:47

Hmm, perhaps Cassie had better offer her legal expertise to the Chief Inspector, who has evidently apologised mistakenly, instead of hauling the reprehensible Ms. Paton off to chokey.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/07/2024 18:21

Hold the front page! Update about the disappearing TikTok video!

I contacted the journalist from North News and asked if she knew that the video had disappeared.

"Yes, I know. It happens all the time. It's really annoying. It's a bot."

😂

Datun · 07/07/2024 20:54

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/07/2024 18:21

Hold the front page! Update about the disappearing TikTok video!

I contacted the journalist from North News and asked if she knew that the video had disappeared.

"Yes, I know. It happens all the time. It's really annoying. It's a bot."

😂

I can't tell you how shocked I am

Christinapple · 08/07/2024 14:37

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 07/07/2024 18:21

Hold the front page! Update about the disappearing TikTok video!

I contacted the journalist from North News and asked if she knew that the video had disappeared.

"Yes, I know. It happens all the time. It's really annoying. It's a bot."

😂

Who or what is a bot and how did the uploader receive this info?

The specific video was reported and removed after a violation was found, the uploader should have received the same notification as the person reporting it.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 09/07/2024 03:36

Christinapple · 08/07/2024 14:37

Who or what is a bot and how did the uploader receive this info?

The specific video was reported and removed after a violation was found, the uploader should have received the same notification as the person reporting it.

The "violation" reported by the TikTok bot and notified to the uploader was that the video was "bullying".

Apparently this has happened before with videos that provide evidence of bullying that has occurred - but the bot misinterprets the video as doing the bullying.

So what notification did the mysterious, unknown person who reported the video receive?

dunBle · 09/07/2024 07:36

Christinapple · 07/07/2024 00:08

Clicked post too soon.

Maybe someone will know better about this than I do, but in some cases of a wrongdoing won't unlawfully obtained evidence be ruled inadmissible?

I've heard cases of amateur "pedo hunter" groups who have caught pedos, but the pedo they caught went free because of the way they obtained the evidence which then couldn't be used in a court.

Wasn't that an entrapment issue though, which doesn't apply in this case?

ANameChangePresents · 09/07/2024 09:07

So much concern around what's legal rather than what's right. A certain poster would have had a jolly old time during the late 1930s, just following orders, I'm sure.

LaMontser · 09/07/2024 20:37

Jesus Christ. It’s not illegal to record a telephone call - even if it’s with plod and TRAs don’t like it. It might be inadmissible in a trial but the plod are only showing themselves to be obnoxious, bigoted fucks and that isn’t actually a crime. They are however referring themselves to their own internal investigatory body where the evidence threshold is lower.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Trying to link this to RIPA is a very clear display of that little knowledge.

Policing by consent is a real and meaningful thing in the UK. Individual plod need to be very careful before undermining it.

BundleBoogie · 11/07/2025 23:59

I was redirected to this old thread because someone is trying to stop people finding out about this by reporting the audio clips and getting them taken down. I had missed this first time round I think but it is pretty shocking. I wonder how the police investigation went?