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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Swinney contradicts SNP gender policies to demand ‘enforcement’ of single-sex spaces

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IwantToRetire · 03/07/2024 01:06

John Swinney has again contradicted his government’s gender policies after he called for “enforcement” of rules allowing biological males to be banned from female spaces.

The First Minister on Tuesday said he backed provisions which allow for biological men who identify as women to be excluded from settings such as women’s changing rooms and rape crisis centres, and that these should be “applied”.

The SNP leader also restated his belief that there are only two genders – male and female – while facing questions from voters during a BBC Radio Scotland phone-in.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/02/john-swinney-single-sex-spaces-snp-gender-policies/

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Sorry if this has been already posted - there have been so many new threads (at least 38 each day for past 3 days!) that I am having problems keeping track. Confused

Swinney contradicts SNP gender policies to demand ‘enforcement’ of single-sex spaces

First Minister backs provisions for biological men identifying as women to be excluded from women’s changing rooms and rape crisis centres

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/07/02/john-swinney-single-sex-spaces-snp-gender-policies

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Hoosemover · 03/07/2024 10:14

This is the SNP throwing everything at the electorate to gain a few votes from Labour. Even though they are responsible for this s*show in Scotland..

CocoapuffPuff · 03/07/2024 10:17

Desperate politician saying anything, absolutely anything, that might let him keep his money and power.
It won't change a bloody thing. Women are screwed in Scotland and probably the UK. It'll all be handed to sad men and we will be told to stfu and be kind. You wait.

lcakethereforeIam · 03/07/2024 10:18

Men who identify as 'sad', while secretly getting off on it.

CocoapuffPuff · 03/07/2024 10:26

Ah yes, of course. I identify as fucking furious, but that's not very girlie so I've been replaced by Tabitha and her size 14 stilettos. I'm now a non- person.

SolitaryBee · 03/07/2024 10:32

Not even a non-person. We are “non-men” according to the glorious Green Party.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 03/07/2024 10:32

It pleased me greatly that this was another Jane . We should all #bemorejane 😃

The audio is here https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1808105300978770350

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https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1808105300978770350

lcakethereforeIam · 03/07/2024 10:43

Fair play to Swinney he didn't interrupt her. Jane's are magnificent. Doesn't ScotGov, and also many councils across the UK, help finance these organisations but only on condition that they include tw?

Trans-inclusive actually might not be a problem if it were tm, or if there were separate provision for tw.

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 03/07/2024 16:18

lcakethereforeIam · 03/07/2024 10:43

Fair play to Swinney he didn't interrupt her. Jane's are magnificent. Doesn't ScotGov, and also many councils across the UK, help finance these organisations but only on condition that they include tw?

Trans-inclusive actually might not be a problem if it were tm, or if there were separate provision for tw.

Yes - you can only get money from ScotGov if you include men.

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/07/2024 16:26

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 03/07/2024 10:32

It pleased me greatly that this was another Jane . We should all #bemorejane 😃

The audio is here https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1808105300978770350

Jane from Scotland is awesome in that clip - really made a detailed and relevant point and pulled Swinney up on his useless answer.

RedToothBrush · 03/07/2024 16:35

This is absolutely nothing to do with polling showing that the largest group of undecided voters are older women.

Oh no.

AstonsGerbil · 03/07/2024 17:06

Hoosemover · 03/07/2024 10:14

This is the SNP throwing everything at the electorate to gain a few votes from Labour. Even though they are responsible for this s*show in Scotland..

Indeed. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. And the SNP have shown us all exactly who they are. No amount of false statements will change my mind.

DuesToTheDirt · 03/07/2024 21:10

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 03/07/2024 10:32

It pleased me greatly that this was another Jane . We should all #bemorejane 😃

The audio is here https://x.com/ForWomenScot/status/1808105300978770350

Go Jane! She is quite right. Swinney "I understand the seriousness and significance of these issues" and apparently the ERCC is apparently reviewing their conduct. Hmm, why is there anything to review? How did they get away with it in the first place? "These issues" have been known for a long time, and facilitated by the SNP, as Jane says. "It's not good enough, John!"

Teribus21 · 04/07/2024 07:44

Jane challenged John Swinney magnificently on Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre being headed by a man who identifies as a woman and who tells rape victims to reframe their trauma if they have a problem with males who pretend to be women providing their counselling service. The ERCC has recently receive a damning indictment by an Employment Tribunal but the CEO (no GRC, no counselling qualifications but plenty of access to vulnerable women) remains in post to carry on re-educating rape victims in new think. To which Swinney’s answer was that this should be sorted out by the organisation, omitting to mention of course, that the Scottish Government funds ERCC handsomely with taxpayers’ money and is in a very good position to sort it out, you might think. It’s not good enough, John.

IwantToRetire · 04/07/2024 16:48

To which Swinney’s answer was that this should be sorted out by the organisation, omitting to mention of course, that the Scottish Government funds ERCC handsomely with taxpayers’ money and is in a very good position to sort it out, you might think.

And equally the organisation (funded by Government?) set up to ensure charities meet guidelines and standards - Scottish Charity Regulator.

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DuesToTheDirt · 04/07/2024 16:55

Yes, Jane knew her stuff. #BeMoreJaneJane

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