Why I'm voting Conservative

[jomartin281271]

Firstly, let me say, it pains me to admit this because I’m not a Tory. I’ve always looked upon myself as a slightly left of centre, live and let live, community based, floating voter. But the more I look at this election campaign, the more I’ve realised that, to me, this is a one issue election. Women’s rights.
Starmer has been asked countless times about women’s private spaces, on radio and on TV. Each time he’s done everything he can to avoid answering the question. In any one of these interviews, he could have made his position clear, particularly on that phone in last week where the caller Jane said she was sick of the twaddle that comes out of his mouth.
Now he’s being quoted in the Telegraph as having said that biological males should not use women’s public toilets. This is a typical move by a politician. Leave it until the last minute, so he can’t be quizzed on what he actually means and then twist and deny it afterwards. I don’t trust him.
I don’t want to vote Conservative. After Partygate and the chaos caused by that idiot Liz Truss, they need a good kicking. But they’re the only party that have consistently come down on the side of women. If Labour get in and shift the gender landscape, the changes they make could be irreparable.
In the Victorian era, they didn’t build public toilets for women. It was a way of keeping women chained to the home. This is the direction we’re heading in if we don’t stand up and put a stop to it. And I don’t want to look back on this in years to come and realise I could have voted against this shift, but I let my political views get in the way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-65557543.amp

Must be!

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/green-party-members-expelled-alleged-gender-critical-purge#:~:text=Eight%20members%20of%20the%20Green,their%20expulsion%20from%20the%20party.

Bunch of women-hating wankers.

Great idea. At least when you are homeless with no healthcare, the rubbish is piling up in the streets and your children are in classes of 50 being looked after by someone with no training you can proudly say you don’t have to sit in a cubicle next to someone you don’t like. Fantastic.

And given the actual global economic reality would Labour have done any better.

They never reversed the right to buy which created the housing problem when they had the chance.

Blair created the nightmare of endless debt for university students, and as said up thread, the debt crisis for the NHS and Education.

And they are keeping the 2 child limit.

Out of interest is there any actual statement in their manifesto that says how they will benefit women.

Violence against women isn't created by Governments but by society that is now addicted to porn, an incel dominated social media, and the fact that families are still producing boys who grow up to be violent men.

Just think if families stopped doing that we wouldn't need as many police, we wouldn't need as many refuges, we wouldn't need as many court dates.

Maybe we could revive the only sensible thing Golda Meir ever said: we need a curfew for men.

And please not NAM.

The violence we experience is the problem created by the sex class men.

To quote, because I cant be bothered to rewrite again.

"They count them and report the total at the and, alongside the totals for each candidate. The results will be read out in the form
“Candidate A, X votes. Candidate B, Y votes. etc… W spoiled ballots and Z blank ballots”.
Spoiling your ballot therefore makes an effective protest vote in the UK–– arguably much more effective than simply not voting at all.

It is however important to note that a ballot is only considered ‘spoiled’ if it has been marked deliberately but in such a way that poll workers can not discern the voter’s preferred candidate,
the voter has attempted to vote for more than one candidate, or
the voter has used a mark which allows them to be identified."
See the link I supplied in my previous post.

Still a waste of time. imo.

Why belittle people who disagree with you in this way?

Keep in mind there will be plenty of interference on this platform and other social media platforms. Suggestions to spoil your vote is harmful and achieves nothing. The older generations know the value of their votes and will not be spoiling their votes. Read the manifestos, look at the past 14 years, and history beyond that. Vote with heart or tactically, but do vote, do your part.

Of the parties that are antithetical to women, and lets face it, its all of them,
the worst ironically, seems to be the Lib Dems.
They are utterly sank in tra, more even than the GP if possible.
And the responses from Party HQ on this issue are the most patronising, offensive and intentionally obtuse.
But then they did take large sums from PB manufacturers.

I’m in a similar position in a Tory seat the LibDems are targeting. I’m voting Tory tactically in an attempt to reduce the chance of a LibDem MP. Plus my local Tory candidate is female who understands this is an important issue to women and is broadly GC* and LibDem candidate is a smug male who is impossible to contact directly to ask the question but his canvassers keep avoiding answering the question when it’s put to them on the doorstep.

*I get the impression the Tory candidate had not been that aware of the strength of feeling before canvassing and has had to get up to speed on the concerns fairly quickly.

Last election I spoilt my vote, one before I voted Labour.

I refuse to vote for a party that has said they don’t want my vote

No, the right of women & children to safety, dignity and privacy should not and will not wait until after the election. We are not prepared to be an afterthought. Not now, not ever. Labour will continue to lose women’s like me, my family & my friends who do care about safeguarding & fairness.

The reason they arent mentioning it is because they know how deeply unpopular the issue is. The GP is being sued in four different cases on this very issue by GP members who have been hounded out for supporting womens rights. Their silence is the frightening bit. As to Lib Dem they are even more committed and took £1.4 million from Puberty blocker developers.
As to telling them to STFU, its clear you have no understanding of whats going on on this subject, but as an ex Green I can assure you that they are up to their neck in internal problems on this issue.
As to a ceasefire and 'This election is about breaking down the established corrupted power systems so they never again can return.' that is just painfully naive.

Yes it is. But voting Tory is worse than a waste of time.

The Tories don't give a shit about you or me, and basing your vote on thinking they might, is incredibly stupid.

Fine, then dont do it. But please dont misinform others in the process.

I'm misinforming no-one.

I am constantly surprised at the level of anger, aggression and insults directed at women who won’t comply and agree not to vote Tory.

Clearly thats directed at me but what you say isnt fair or true.
Spoiling your vote, is having a say if no party appeals, its not the same as not voting.
I have telled and vote counted for the last three elections so I feel I have some experience in this.
"The older generations know the value of their votes and will not be spoiling their votes. "
I am older generation, and choosing to spoil my vote is part of the democratic process. I am not telling anyone else to do it. Im explaining my decision to do it.
You do what you like, but please dont misinform.

You are if you say its not counted

This.

Labour are going to win, so in marginal seats, we need to vote for the sensible voices to strengthen the Opposition.

Just think about how a huge Labour majority (with a tiny 60 seat Opposition as some are predicting) will play out...

Christ pack it in with the be kind shite. Voting Tory IS stupid. It’s not an insult when it’s clear fact.

Fair enough, but voting Labour and expecting anything better than their stated thinking is equally naive. It's just wishful thinking.

What the hell do you expect the Greens to do with their 1 possibly 3 MPs?

Sorry but this is bollocks - the Tories hate women.

If you want to shaft the whole country even more than it already is, then vote Tory for the sake of these invisible trans bogeymen. But the don't complain once nursery costs, caring for the elderly, corrupt police forces, the gender pay gap and shit healthcare make your life a misery.

Oh give over, being a woman has nothing to do with it.
Vote for who you like but don't weaponise women to justify your choices.

Don't worry I have the same level of anger for all the men who vote Tory too - my antipathy reaches across the whole gender spectrum. I am very inclusive when it comes to judging people for voting conservative.

Nope. Every time I read a post like this it conjures up images of a froth flecked Lloyd Russell-Moyle screaming at his keyboard that women should just sit down shut up and do what they’re told.