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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ridiculous propaganda video from Australia

147 replies

Namechange98242 · 29/06/2024 13:00

https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1806857007808315681

This has to be a parody, right?!

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https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1806857007808315681

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VictorianBigot · 29/06/2024 21:41

Namechange98242 · 29/06/2024 21:15

Yep, that was what I didn't get. How exactly is the transwoman made to feel unsafe by being alone in the lift?!

Frankly I’d be delighted if every time I got in a lift a misogynist walked out.

ApplesinmyPocket · 29/06/2024 21:45

"How exactly is the transwoman made to feel unsafe by being alone in the lift?!"

The word 'unsafe' has had its meaning changed by this ideology. Trans people feel 'unsafe' when reminded of reality.

Nothing to do with physical danger, or even an outside threat, but their structure of self-deception topples when reminded the fantasy isn't real and everyone knows it.

Helleofabore · 29/06/2024 22:00

What also was very clear was the messaging of vulnerability. The older male moving in and dropping a box. Yes, male people drop boxes, but that scene was contrived to portray a ‘female’ stereotype. Female people are more likely to drop boxes due to our skeletal proportions and grip strength, our hips and our height.

The footballer’s expression struck me as childlike.

However, the male in the lift looked petulant to me. Not vulnerable though.

Datun · 29/06/2024 22:45

VictorianBigot · 29/06/2024 21:41

Frankly I’d be delighted if every time I got in a lift a misogynist walked out.

😆

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 22:56

Helleofabore · 29/06/2024 14:28

It is telling that the only negative reaction was from a female person who did not wish to be in a small confined space with a male. There was no “negative” reaction shown by male people. There was no “negative” reaction shown that was motivated from unmistakable hatred or for any other reason.

Whoever wrote and produced this ad did so only from the anything less than 100% compliance is hateful and not to be accepted position. An extreme position.

This ad is sinister in this way. This is the equivalent of telling women and children that they must reframe their trauma. That they must lower their own personal boundaries and that their own discomfort is always wrong.

I guess it is clear that this Victorian government didn’t even think to get women’s perspectives on this.

Not only a male, but one parading his fetishisation of women. Red flags everywhere.

OvaHere · 29/06/2024 23:01

Ocymoroniclife · 29/06/2024 19:53

This movement is entirely based on destroying women and girls ability to have any boundaries.

It’s one of the key foundation stones of the movement.

This bears repeating

and putting on a large banner

and a t shirt

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 23:11

It's unfettered male supremacism. Access all areas, including the bodies of whoever they want sexually. It's the most successful face of the MRA movement.

InWalksBarberalla · 29/06/2024 23:19

This ad is from the Victorian labor government who have been in power for ages. The previous leader of this party hosted drag queens in parliament house to show his support for drag queen story time in public libraries. Then the other side - the liberal (conservative) party leader is the one that expelled a woman from his party for being involved in the Let Women Speak rallies (and had a defamation case against him by KJK). So women in the state of Victoria are just screwed.

Catsmere · 29/06/2024 23:20

Yep, this is why I've spoiled my ballot for years.

AstonsStolenData · 30/06/2024 02:11

It's absolute, pure rape culture, being promoted by the government.

UtopiaPlanitia · 30/06/2024 03:03

Victoria Smith tweeted regarding this new ad and I quite agree with her:

https://x.com/glosswitch/status/1806984505116291180

'I think this kind of messaging sits alongside the "don't be a Karen" stuff - part of a whole series of ways in which it's 'progressive' to ridicule women's fears and make them too inhibited to speak out for fear of looking 'conservative'.'

InWalksBarberalla · 30/06/2024 03:42

It's just the most fucked up ad. That man doesn't feel unsafe. He looks pissed off that the woman (who did appear to feel unsafe) didn't want to play along with his delusion. And yeah let's encourage woman to stay in enclosed spaces with angry mentally ill men in the guise of being kind. So fucking over this bullshit.

SamuelDJackson · 30/06/2024 06:04

Yup, body language in the lift scene is very off - comes in glaring/scowling and arranges themself very close/shoulder to shoulder with the woman (do people still do this since COVID?), the mirror behind them emphasizing the trans identifying individuals broad shoulders and height.
Just like the 'not cool girl/bystander' train/coffee/suicide ads where woman were encouraged to approach unwell men on public transport, evil lift woman is dressed as a frumpy dumpy stereotype, with her high necked uptight blouse, untucked at the back, and round shouldered grey cardigan, poor makeup, clearly not performing 'feminine' as well as the trans individual, and also deficient in her female socialisation in not being a good little support human. The message is you dont want to be like her, older, unfashionable, overweight, not confident.
But the last minute, nervous bolt for the doors, without a derisory look or word to the male who has just made her uncomfortable, suggest fear of being in an enclosed space with a male rather than an act of aggression. Who really felt unsafe in this scenario - it seems a bit of an own goal advert?

Catsmere · 30/06/2024 06:36

Also the bloke on the tram offering a big smile and instantly moving over for the bloke in the floral shirt and makeup ... yeah, bollocks. Not in forty years of using Melbourne public transport did I ever see any man act like that in response to anyone.

Kucinghitam · 30/06/2024 06:41

@SamuelDJackson @InWalksBarberalla It's crystal clear that whoever came up with this ad believes that there are two categories of individuals:

  1. Special people who are fully human and allowed to have the special and most important emotions, e.g. feeling "unsafe"
  2. Partially-sentient support bipeds who exist to service the special fully human people. They are only allowed partial sentience, because they are required to possess particular limited emotions, e.g. BeKind.
SD1978 · 30/06/2024 06:52

Bloody hell. That advert is something else. Makes me slightly embarrassed to be living in Victoria 🤣 the lift- she looks scared and he looks borderline aggressive. The tram- cant move his rucksack for any of the already standing passengers (women) but will for the individual in the sparkly shirt.......and please, come play on our team, you're huge and will (literally) crush the competition and we will smile and be so happy about it....... clearly not a well thought out, but probably bloody expensive advert.

HoldingTheDoor · 30/06/2024 07:18

clearly not a well thought out,

Personally I think that they’ve put a lot of thought into it and that the messages that it’s sending to women are exactly what they intended.

ScrapeMyArse · 30/06/2024 07:19

That ad has really sat with me since watching it yesterday.

Is it illustrative of how people - men especially - who don't get it see things?

How can the producers and actors not see the way the male stands so close and stares so intensely at the woman? Was that scripted or unintentional? It's not how humans behave in crowded places, and lifts tend to be in cities.

Watching it I feel so utterly degraded as a woman. I know it's Australian and not put out by the uk labour party, but this is seriously making me reconsider my vote: the thought that the Keir Starmers out there would watch this and feel sympathy for the male and think the woman a bigot for reading social cues and being brave enough to act on gut feelings.

DeanElderberry · 30/06/2024 08:09

The tram one is fascinating. No suggestion that clearing the seat for the person who could actually be pregnant would be a better idea. I remember decades ago a pregnant friend (who had been warned about standing after a scare) saying she'd given up expecting courtesy from men on public transport, and if she needed a seat would ask a woman. Very mad world.

So the messaging is - play dress-up to get respect. Ordinary clothes = natural victim. Interesting.

frazzled1 · 30/06/2024 08:22

This is worth a watch - subtitles added to show just what's 'unsaid'......

https://x.com/RachaelWongAus/status/1806862383446729193

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https://x.com/RachaelWongAus/status/1806862383446729193

NotBadConsidering · 30/06/2024 08:30

It’s just so stupid as well as misogynistic. The one with the middle aged man who drops a box in front of his new neighbour, who helps him. Is that supposed to signal a “positive message to trans people”? It’s just what the vast majority of people would do! It’s not a non-verbal signal of kindness to trans, it’s just normal human behaviour.

Runor · 30/06/2024 08:38

SD1978 curious about how the attitude of your council is affecting women and children living in Victoria? Can you give some examples please?

DeanElderberry · 30/06/2024 09:40

Common courtesy messaging that might be useful:

Don't put your luggage on the seat of a public transport vehicle - it's there for other passengers to sit on. Be prepared to offer your own seat to someone who needs it.

If someone drops something, offer to help them pick up.

Don't crash a stranger's party.

Don't crowd a fellow passenger in a lift. Be aware that most women will not choose stay in closed, locked, environments with male bodied strangers.

I didn't watch them all, I'm sure I've missed something.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/06/2024 09:41

I wouldn't have given a bloke in a glittery top my seat, why should I?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/06/2024 09:42

But yes, absolutely people shouldn't hog the next seat with their bags etc anyway.