Gender GP Helen Webberley interview in the Times

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I respect the Times for printing this, because I genuinely think it's right to get both sides. It doesn't change my opinion of HW or her husband. It looks like they have an extremely swanky house to me. There's gold in them there pills.

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A modern day Walter Freeman.

Here's a sharetoken for the article:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/24746282-4ffb-42dd-b032-071f5cd9bb96?shareToken=9f314581eac42ec80c3b500a18f15384

She doesn't actually set out a coherent argument though, it's all just waffle and hyperbole. For me, that's where the value of this article lies, I can't imagine anyone reading this will be convinced that she is acting in the best interest of anybody other than herself. You could pick every single thing she says apart without breaking sweat. She is either utterly ruthless or utterly deluded.

"Webberley said: “Everybody’s vulnerable if they need something — so we’re not targeting a vulnerable population. My personal life, my professional life, has been sacrificed to help this community.”

This is lacking even the most basic logic.

"Webberley also claimed that the Cass review would have already led to deaths in the transgender community."

She provides no evidence for this claim.

"Webberley said: “She (Cass) read a different set of papers and research papers to the world’s medical experts in transgender health. It’s completely stymied our children’s service.”

Where are these papers? Give us some links.

It’s a complete car crash. I’d love to know whose idea this was- did she approach the Times, did they approach her or was this the brainchild of the Good Law Project on the back of their upcoming court case?

As always on this topic, the comments are great. The public is not buying what the TRAs are selling.

That is a terrifying interview 😱

Sick fuck. Obvious grift.

You wonder how this person ever obtained a qualification in medicine. She certainly doesn’t deserve a certificate in being a decent human being.

There's another word they wilfully misunderstand - "need". Nobody, least of all children, needs these things. They may want them, or be led to believe they do, but that's it.

And just what are these alleged deaths in the "trans community"? Waving the suicide stick around again, is she? I seem to recall (alas, no details) reading years ago that the most likely to suicide were those who went down the medical-sterilisation-surgical-mutilation path, then realised they had destroyed their health and still would never be what they wanted.

*Should children still be put on that particular medical pathway, then?

“The alternative is saying ‘no’ and then you’ll never have the data,” Webberley said.*

Good grief.

That woman is a ghoul. Profiteering on the back of vulnerable children. Her and the yeet the teets lady make my skin crawl.

I think this article is actually very good - gives her so much rope that she's left there hanging. But one salient omission is the NHSE advice that GPs not share care with GenderGP.

I wonder how GPs would react if they knew child in their care was being fed PBs from overseas by their parents on holiday? Surely immediate SS referral. Wonder if FGM legislation would be relevant?

It is.

It's difficult to put myself in the position of someone who isn't already horrified by what's happening to the vulnerable children who are being pulled in to this, but (trying my best to be objective) I think the harm and some of the risks of both puberty blockers and cross-sex are there in relatively plain sight.

Holy fuck that's terrifying.

Excellent journalism from the Times- just the facts, interspersed with quotes.

'She described puberty blockers as “the most natural medicine”. Testosterone, when used on people whose testicles don’t work, was the “most natural drug in the world”.

“People are alarmed at the side effects — well, these are the natural hormones we produce every day”, she added.'

JFC

This bit too:

When discussing the effects of puberty blockers on brain maturation — something mentioned in the Cass review — Webberley conceded they may temporarily affect older teens. However, she added: “Permanently? They haven’t got the data on that.”

WTAF?! When the NHS advice on puberty blockers said that the impact on the developing teenage brain was "unknown" (wording since removed), this is what prompted my husband and me to say no to our daughter's request for them.

Yet here's Webberley merrily conceding that there may well be temporary effects and she can't rule out permanent damage.

Erm.

Anything else that a doctor says after this regarding any other type of hormonal treatment has got to be taken with the biggest pinch of salt.

"They haven't got the data on that"

What kind of doctor openly admits to prescribing medication where there is no (research) data?!

I thought my jaw was already on the floor. But this is a whole new level.

For a long time I have felt that HW does not actually care for the transgender population, she is simply using them to fill her piggy bank.

Admittedly it was a few months ago when I last read the Reddit sub, but there was nothing that made me think that HW had their best interests at heart. Those 10-20 00 emails a day are probably from people trying to get what they have paid for.

I’ve posted before. My son. Early 20s. Sold testosterone blockers and oestrogen after 2 phone calls with these fuckers. Each less than an hour. No medical tests, for example to check existing hormone levels.

I found the medication. TBH I suspect he left them out so I would. He stopped taking them and had only had them for a short time. He’s now finally on the path to having his suspected neurodiversity investigated. The thing that has actually seen him struggling.

I probably can’t post what I think about this woman and the people who support her.

'GenderGP has ditched health advisers in favour of providing transgender people with “self-service” treatment recommendations using an AI algorithm.

It means, for example, that a person’s blood test can be analysed by an algorithm, instead of a human health adviser, to provide a treatment recommendation for the patient to take to a doctor.

Webberley said: “We fed the algorithms the respected clinical guidelines.” It removed the “human interpretation of protocol”, she added.'

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderGP/

An informative subreddit of GenderGP users.

Thank goodness you have been able to help.

After the fact that Webberley thinks it's a good idea to experiment on children, potentially wrecking their lives, without any kind of reliable evidence base, the thing that leaps out from that article is that many of the eyebrow-raising arrangements are there to minimise or eliminate culpability, and thus professional accountability and financial damages:
- GenderGP is registered in Singapore, a country where gay marriage is illegal, and is not registered with England’s Care Quality Commission.
- Webberley said that she was a director of GenderGP and not directly involved in care.
- GenderGP assesses people with gender dysphoria and connects them to doctors outside the UK, in the European Economic Area, for prescriptions.
- GenderGP has ditched health advisers in favour of providing transgender people with “self-service” treatment recommendations using an AI algorithm.
- GenderGP also sends the AI-generated recommendation — which could include information on hormone treatment — to a patient’s GP.
- Webberley said that she could take legal action against the doctor who made the court claim, adding that it was “untrue”. She said they had not been given notice of the court case.
- Now, as part of its “future-proofed” service, GenderGP has replaced a team of healthcare assistants answering questions with an AI-generated online “knowledge base”.
- Tribunal documents showed that GenderGP did not respond to the claim. Webberley said that GenderGP was not invited to the tribunal.

She has her eye firmly on how to walk away from the scandal when it properly explodes.

To borrow a phrase from Dawn French: “Oh my actual God.”

I am so ashamed of the way medicine has been complicit in this.

The Times has turned off the comments. I guess they got a bit too good.

Now, as part of its “future-proofed” service, GenderGP has replaced a team of healthcare assistants answering questions with an AI-generated online “knowledge base”.

What could possibly go wrong?

Sadly the FGM legislation does not cover this type of scenario.