Incoming director of BBC sport has already blocked Nartins Navratilova

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Fucks sake - should say Martina Navratilova

And protected his tweets

he wrote this in 2019

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/2024.06.10-153700/www.thetimes.com/uk/science/article/there-is-no-evidence-of-a-crusade-to-obliterate-womens-sport-qnp6nw6b2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.ph/2024.06.10-153700/www.thetimes.com/uk/science/article/there-is-no-evidence-of-a-crusade-to-obliterate-womens-sport-qnp6nw6b2

Not a friend of women’s sport

I'm getting a 404 on those links but I really want to know who this is and what he said

It's Alex Kay-Jelski I think. Maybe this link will work?

https://archive.ph/iibRt

Hurdle over with this Here

Wow, that's like a Greatest Hits playlist of all the disingenuous mendacious BeeeeeKind bollocks all assembled into one stinking cesspit.

Well just what we need, another man telling us not to worry our pretty little heads.
Telling Sharron Davies she has no experience of this - the same Sharron Davies who missed out on a gold medal because her opponent was taking testosterone. Probably before he was even born. What a dick.

I've just checked, he is 40 - so yes this happened before he was born.

The idea that Sharron Davis and Martina Navratilova are not experts on women's sports.... wow.

Thread from 2019!

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3544949-Times-article-on-transgender-athletes-Alex-Kay-Jelski?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Thanks for all the links. Well, things have changed a lot since 2019 and women are here and ready to take on this guy.

I'm predicting huge backlash against this.

And I know he's trying to weasel his way around that.

Honestly another fucking man saying this.

Sorry too enraged ti see it's from 2019

He needs to answer some questions.

https://www.thenational.scot/sport/24379020.jk-rowling-launches-attack-bbc-new-director-sport/

Navratilova was aghast to discover Kay-Jelski's thoughts on the matter, as she confirmed to a user online that she'd been blocked by him.
"This is pretty pathetic," she wrote on X. "Never heard of this man, looked him up here and found myself blocked.
"Once again, good to know that men apparently know what women like myself and Sharron know about biology and sports, etc. Just amazing to be this confident, no?"It was here that Harry Potter author Rowling - whose views on the topic of women's rights and gender ideology have been well-documented - took aim at the soon-to-be director of sport at BBC.She responded to Navratilova's post: "I'd say it's unbelievable for a man in his position to say these things at all, let alone block you, and yet, given the shameful state of the BBC's reporting on women's right/gender issue, it's utterly predictable." again, good to know that men apparently know what women like myself and Sharron know about biology and sports, etc. Just amazing to be this confident, no?"

He's not going to have changed his mind in the intervening years is he.

Several sporting bodies have stated their position since then. Harper's study has been scrutinised and its flaws highlighted. I'm hoping his thinking will have been forced to move on a bit.

Just to vent: I cannot stand this argument "yes, you can of course find if you look hard enough a few examples of transgender athletes who have gone on to perform well in their sports."
A few - really? For every transgender athlete who performs well (let's face it, men in women's sports) a whole chain of athletes has to move down one place, whether professional or amateur. So a whole chain of women lose out on their rightful medals, rankings, prize money, personal achievements. How can anyone not see that? How 'few' women missing out is enough?

Edited to add: and not just "perform well". Just by them entering, women have to move aside. Gah.

The first thing he needs to do is apologise for blocking Martina and the second is to explain his current position very clearly.

The BBC won't give a flying fuck, in fact his attitude probably got him the job

Quite. I dont have a particular problem with this guy and his beliefs-even tin foil hat nutters are entitled to believe any old bollocks they like. However, the question really should be-who the hell appointed this hatstand? What were they thinking (if anything).

So let's see.

He say he may be wrong but he intends to support Trans identified men anyway.

He says he is worried "a circus is being created out of something that a) is not a huge problem in sport and b) further marginalises totally unthreatening people and creates a narrative of fear around them."

He has decided it's not a problem because it doesn't hurt real people. Only women.

And further down he admits to knowing about the vicious threats (to maim, rape and kill any women who speaks up), but says you can't blame them for that.

Apparently a woman wearing Adult Human Female T-shirts is the moral equivalent in his eyes

He is exactly the kind of person the BBC should employ. He will fit in nicely and if Labour win they won't have to hold back any more.

Just to vent: I cannot stand this argument "yes, you can of course find if you look hard enough a few examples of transgender athletes who have gone on to perform well in their sports."

exactly. It's as good as having I'm a misogynist tattooed on his forehead. It's only women's sport, so therefore it doesn't count.

Shall we put a cheetah in the men's 100m, because it's only one?

They, like most of us, are not experts though.

Aye, Jay - but some people have practical experience, which can help inform experts. You know, Like Sharon Davies and Martina Navaratilova, women who've read up and spoken to people intensively on the subjects, including actual activists.

Their unqualified non expertise is tiers above your ideological, frankly stupid ignorant be kind bullshit.

Unfortunately I think this is true.

Let’s all complain and make the BBC accountable.

Apparently though he’s has children using a surrogate - so he does know what a woman is when it’s convenient for him to do so

surprise surprise

2019 or 2024, it doesn't matter, it's completely unacceptable - unless he has issued a withdrawal and an abject apology? No, you say? he just got a high-flying job?

As well as all the misogynistic be kind stuff that PPs have pointed out, I thought this paragraph was breathtakingly offensive:

Of course you can say that Putin will turn a bunch of men into female athletes to win medals but it is a highly unlikely scenario. Minorities have forever been grouped together and been served up to the majority as threatening: don’t let gay men teach your children or they’ll get AIDS, don’t let black men in the same shops as you or they’ll rape your women, don’t do a business deal with a Jew or he will steal your money. Oh and look, here’s an example. Or you could let people quietly go about their lives and acknowledge that they have been through hell compared to you.

What's that Putin nonsense? has anybody ever actually said that?

And wow, there's nothing as EDI/DEI as actually spelling out the worst stereotypical slurs against minorities - AIDS/rapists/moneygrabbing. Top job, Alex Kay-Jelski, we really needed to see all that racism written down. Not.

And 'acknowledge that [trans people] have been through hell compared to you?'
How dismissive of women's lives, women who face sexism and, in the specific cases of MN and SD, who have been through difficult times in their own lives.

Alex Kay-Jelski wrote that Times article in 2019. Many sporting bodies have changed their position since then. Does he claim they are “not experts” either? Maybe he should clarify his position on this