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Just who is KJK standing against in the GE?

107 replies

CassieMaddox · 07/06/2024 18:55

The mystery continues. Will it be Brighton, Birmingham, Bristol or none of the above?

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NoWordForFluffy · 08/06/2024 07:10

Alison's standing as an independent now.

21 candidates isn't too shabby for PoW, considering how new the party is. And don't worry, they're not expecting to win, they're there to get sunlight on the issue.

BlackForestCake · 08/06/2024 07:44

Thangam Debbonaire was the only MP who spoke up when Labour activists organised a mob to disrupt the WPUK fringe meeting at the party conference a few years ago. I'm confused about the reasoning for standing against her.

Uytoop · 08/06/2024 08:10

BlackForestCake · 08/06/2024 07:44

Thangam Debbonaire was the only MP who spoke up when Labour activists organised a mob to disrupt the WPUK fringe meeting at the party conference a few years ago. I'm confused about the reasoning for standing against her.

Yeah me too, a weird choice. She also wore suffragette colours in parliament in support of the woman chucked out of the GRR debate https://twitter.com/lnmackenzie1/status/1593283511238139906. Not a loud voice maybe but not a TRA.

x.com

https://twitter.com/lnmackenzie1/status/1593283511238139906

IwantToRetire · 08/06/2024 20:49

The website that said it had 21 PoW candidates listed, has now published at list of number of candidates for all parties, and PoW has been revised down to 16.

But still think that in terms of only being registered early this year, and something quite new for everyone, I think those 16 are to be congratulated for putting themselve foward for public scrutiny.

Women's Equality Party has got 4 candidates.

https://democracyclub.org.uk/blog/2024/06/08/2024-uk-general-election-candidate-summary/

2024 UK general election candidate summary

The most candidates ever! See the full list of parties standing.

https://democracyclub.org.uk/blog/2024/06/08/2024-uk-general-election-candidate-summary

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/06/2024 20:52

Deleted Too much wine!

MinorDisaster · 08/06/2024 21:01

IwantToRetire · 08/06/2024 20:49

The website that said it had 21 PoW candidates listed, has now published at list of number of candidates for all parties, and PoW has been revised down to 16.

But still think that in terms of only being registered early this year, and something quite new for everyone, I think those 16 are to be congratulated for putting themselve foward for public scrutiny.

Women's Equality Party has got 4 candidates.

https://democracyclub.org.uk/blog/2024/06/08/2024-uk-general-election-candidate-summary/

I wonder if the original total of 21 included the 5 PoW candidates who stood in the recent local elections as well as the new 16 parliamentary candidates. The website says that the 'elections database collects all elections to UK parliaments, principal councils (districts, counties and unitaries) and other bodies'. Maybe they hadn't separated the two groups out.

OldCrone · 08/06/2024 21:12

MinorDisaster · 08/06/2024 21:01

I wonder if the original total of 21 included the 5 PoW candidates who stood in the recent local elections as well as the new 16 parliamentary candidates. The website says that the 'elections database collects all elections to UK parliaments, principal councils (districts, counties and unitaries) and other bodies'. Maybe they hadn't separated the two groups out.

I was just going to post the same thing. The number of candidates includes all the people who have stood in elections in the last few years. If you look at the Labour page, they have over 37,000 candidates in their database.

GardeningIdiot · 08/06/2024 21:44

hellointernet12 · 07/06/2024 21:14

Is what a joke, I don't understand

Your original post…

Just who is KJK standing against in the GE?
MinorDisaster · 08/06/2024 21:58

I've found these names/constituencies so far. I gathered this info through Google searching not via a single reliable database so there may be errors and corrections are welcome! Can anyone fill in the missing four?

Party of Women Candidates 2024 General Election (needs checking)

  1. Bernadette O'Malley - South West Herts
  2. Bev White - St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
  3. Jennifer Thetford-Kay – Sheffield Heeley
  4. Julia Maria Long – Bexhill and Battle
  5. Katherine Mary Longthorp – Oxford East
  6. Kelly Oliver Dougall - Tynemouth
  7. Kelly-Jay Keen – Bristol
  8. Lesley Woodburn - Islington South and Finsbury
  9. Linda Law – Norwich South
10. Lisa Morgan - Barrow and Furness 11. Liz Panton - Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend 12. Una Marie O'Mahony - Kensington and Bayswater 13... 14... 15... 16...
MinorDisaster · 08/06/2024 22:15

Already spotted a mistake myself:

  1. Louise McDonald is the candidate for Sheffield Heeley (not Jennifer Thetford-Kay)

Sorry, sorry, sorry!

IwantToRetire · 08/06/2024 22:51

By sheer chance as was going to do something nerdy with a spread sheet download, when I discovered it had all the info.

So more by luck than perseverance, in alphabetical order of constituency:

1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness
2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle
3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central
4 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North
5 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green
6 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth
7 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury
8 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater
9 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend
10 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South
11 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East
12 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley
13 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire
14 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire
15 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth
16 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire

dunBle · 09/06/2024 14:10

Based on @IwantToRetire's post above, these are the MPs standing in the seats involved, although due to the boundary changes coming into effect in many cases they aren't technically the same seat as last time.
1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness (CON - Simon Fell)
2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle (CON - incumbent stood down)
3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central (LAB - Thangam Debbonaire)
4 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North (LAB - Ed Miliband)
5 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green (CON - incumbent stood down)
6 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth (new constituency, 2 existing MPs Richard Foord LIB and Simon Jupp CON are contesting the seat)
7 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury (LAB - Emily Thornberry)
8 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater (CON - Felicity Buchan)
9 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend (LAB - incumbent stood down, but Mary Glindon from neighbouring abolished seat standing)
10 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South (LAB - Clive Lewis)
11 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East (LAB - Anneliese Dodds)
12 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley (LAB - Louise Haigh)
13 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire (CON - Gagan Mohindra)
14 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire (CON - Anthony Browne)
15 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth (LAB - Alan Campbell)
16 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire (CON - Harriet Baldwin)

nobeans · 09/06/2024 14:12

IwantToRetire · 08/06/2024 01:11

KJK now listed at Bristol Central

https://whocanivotefor.co.uk/elections/BS8%201LN/

If that is your post code you might want to get it removed

NoWordForFluffy · 09/06/2024 15:32

I'm very interested in Katherine Longthorp standing against Annaliese Dodds! Bring on the hustings!

Edit: And Lesley against Thornberry. 😀

FKAT · 09/06/2024 16:40

BlackForestCake · 08/06/2024 07:44

Thangam Debbonaire was the only MP who spoke up when Labour activists organised a mob to disrupt the WPUK fringe meeting at the party conference a few years ago. I'm confused about the reasoning for standing against her.

I imagine it's to disrupt Denyer rather than Thangham. Any loss of voters for the greens will help Thangham

cariadlet · 09/06/2024 17:04

FKAT · 09/06/2024 16:40

I imagine it's to disrupt Denyer rather than Thangham. Any loss of voters for the greens will help Thangham

As a Green Party member who despairs of the TRA takeover of my party and can't stand Carla Denyer, I really hope that's the case.

FKAT · 09/06/2024 19:11

Just looked here - Labour are at risk of losing this seat to the Greens. I think Posie standing possibly will help Thangam because it may take the independent vote share and highlight the absurdity of Green gender views.
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Bristol%20Central

New Seat Details - Bristol Central

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/calcwork23.py?seat=Bristol+Central

FKAT · 09/06/2024 19:13

Though I honestly don't know if that is her strategy.

BlackForestCake · 09/06/2024 22:26

What reasons does that site have for predicting that the seat is going to suddenly swing from a massive Labour majority to a massive Green majority? Debbonaire got almost 60% of the vote last time. Now the Greens are supposedly going to shoot up from 25% to over 50?

FKAT · 09/06/2024 23:20

IKR? Seems mental.

NoWordForFluffy · 09/06/2024 23:22

BlackForestCake · 09/06/2024 22:26

What reasons does that site have for predicting that the seat is going to suddenly swing from a massive Labour majority to a massive Green majority? Debbonaire got almost 60% of the vote last time. Now the Greens are supposedly going to shoot up from 25% to over 50?

I've not yet found a swing I think is feasible. Labour fans love it as a prediction tool though!

IwantToRetire · 09/06/2024 23:51

dunBle · 09/06/2024 14:10

Based on @IwantToRetire's post above, these are the MPs standing in the seats involved, although due to the boundary changes coming into effect in many cases they aren't technically the same seat as last time.
1 ... Lisa Morgan ... Barrow and Furness (CON - Simon Fell)
2 ... Julia Maria Long ... Bexhill and Battle (CON - incumbent stood down)
3 ... Kellie-Jay Keen ... Bristol Central (LAB - Thangam Debbonaire)
4 ... Catherine Briggs ... Doncaster North (LAB - Ed Miliband)
5 ... Katharine Margaret Murphy ... Finchley and Golders Green (CON - incumbent stood down)
6 ... Hazel Exon ... Honiton and Sidmouth (new constituency, 2 existing MPs Richard Foord LIB and Simon Jupp CON are contesting the seat)
7 ... Lesley Woodburn ... Islington South and Finsbury (LAB - Emily Thornberry)
8 ... Una Marie O'Mahony ... Kensington and Bayswater (CON - Felicity Buchan)
9 ... Liz Panton ... Newcastle upon Tyne East and Wallsend (LAB - incumbent stood down, but Mary Glindon from neighbouring abolished seat standing)
10 ... Linda Jane Law ... Norwich South (LAB - Clive Lewis)
11 ... Katherine Mary Longthorp ... Oxford East (LAB - Anneliese Dodds)
12 ... Louise McDonald ... Sheffield Heeley (LAB - Louise Haigh)
13 ... Bernadette O'Malley ... South West Hertfordshire (CON - Gagan Mohindra)
14 ... Bev White ... St Neots and Mid Cambridgeshire (CON - Anthony Browne)
15 ... Kelly Jane Oliver Dougall ... Tynemouth (LAB - Alan Campbell)
16 ... Seonaid Dawn Barber ... West Worcestershire (CON - Harriet Baldwin)

Hi @dunBle

Can I copy this to another thread - with credit to you?!

Thanks

IwantToRetire · 10/06/2024 00:12

I hope that Emily Thornberry (Islington) is shown up to be the complacent and often pompous Labour clone she is.

Cant find anything recent but that means she hasn't contradicted this:

"Emily Thornberry has backed the Labour leader's stance in a row over whether only women have cervixes.
The shadow trade secretary said it was "factually inaccurate" to make the claim when some trans men and non-binary people also have a cervix." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58708728

And also think it interesting, if it is true, that KJK standing in Bristol may help undermine the Green candidate rather than it being about Labour.

Emily Thornberry

Labour conference: Emily Thornberry backs Sir Keir Starmer over trans row

The shadow trade secretary says it is “factually inaccurate” to say only women have a cervix.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58708728

dunBle · 10/06/2024 01:00

@IwantToRetire that's fine, no credit required.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/06/2024 06:07

Emily Thornberry has skin in the game, IIRC, with a trans relative (MtF).