Labour won't back Tory pledge to protect single-sex spaces

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Apparently women already have enough protection. Try telling that to the women who were left to deal with man in the women's loos in my local M&S the other day. He wouldn't leave until one of them phoned the police. There needs to be an absolutely clear 'no men in women's single-sex spaces' law. Any grey area leaves predatory men space to manouevre.

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Public spending per head in Wales is £13,967 (11% above the UK average) - figure from the Treasury's analysis for 2023.

And has been said, the Labour government in Cardiff is solely responsible for policy, administration and funding in health and education.

14 years is a long time in government for a party of any political persuasion.

Though it is highly unlikely that Labour is going to provide the much longed for relief that many are desperately hoping for. Labour have signed up to all the current spending commitments, and have back-tracked on virtually all of the manifesto pledges they once stood for. The Left despises Starmer and has long seen him as a right wing 'Blairite'. Many of those people will not be voting Labour this time ( either the Greens, Reform, or else parties that are far more Left wing) - although it will not prevent them from securing a majority - as most people are seeking refreshment, and a change.

Kier Starmer's job hs been to get Labour elected - and to do that he has shifted position in every conceiveable way so as to appeal to reluctant voters. Except on Trans ideology - very bizarrely. This will come back to haunt him, though. There is no doubt about this.

I think people are going to be sorely disappointed in a new Labour government.

It's pretty clear that there's going to be precious little money for services and it'll take years to undo Tory austerity. Plus voter-acceptable Labour aren't actually very left.

Gender woo is the one cheap sop that they can throw to the left to try to distract from some tough times to come.

It's still going to be shit to be old, disabled, sick but hopefully maintaining the level of shitness and not getting worse.

It'll be a bit more shit for women, but we don't count so shrug.

So because we are fuming at Labour for continuing to dismiss our very real concerns we are somehow supporting Nigel effing Farage. All the polls show that Labour will be in power in a month’s time, it’s just a question of how many seats they’ll win. That’s why women are desperate for them to show that they’ve changed on this issue.

Exactly. I’m a disabled, gender critical woman with an 18 year old daughter. I can’t vote conservative, it’d be shooting myself in the foot (not that I’d feel it, neuropathy 😂) but I can’t vote labour either.

in our constituency I need to vote labour (tactically) to remove bloody Liam Fox but voting labour is literally grating on me…..

This shit really needs to stop. People might disagree with you - stop behaving like a bloody two year old when they do FFS. Grow up.

Kier Starmer's job hs been to get Labour elected - and to do that he has shifted position in every conceiveable way so as to appeal to reluctant voters. Except on Trans ideology - very bizarrely. This will come back to haunt him, though. There is no doubt about this

Wise words.

Thanks @Scavernick

I thought the same. It’s ridiculous

It’s not as if women and children aren’t impacted by gender ideology. And here we are with those posts.

Depressing

Given how well every boomer is supposed to have done out of what you call 50 years of Tory hegemony, and give how crap the 1970s were (I'm old enough to remember the power cuts, the three day week, the unending strikes and my dad close to a nervous breakdown with worry about how to pay all the bills), and given how anyone under the age of 35 thinks that the 80s and 90s was a golden age (it didn't feel like that at the time), I'm tempted to say that the last 50 years probably weren't as bad for many people as you'd like to make out. I see a lot of people mourning the good old days.

Per capita Wales receives more than most areas of the UK. The Welsh government has total control over Education, Health and social care, Housing, and Highways and transport and other sectors. Wales performs worst among UK nations in maths, reading and science. This article from the BBC indicates how badly the NHS is performing in Wales. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66511635. The housing crisis is as bad here in Wales as it is in many parts of the UK. So is the pothole crisis. If anyone in England is expecting major improvements under a Labour government, they need to brace themselves for disappointment.

As for this 'Tory Brexit' you speak of, have you already forgotten that Corbyn was an ardent Brexiteer?

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I note the long silence from @Rosaluxemberg C'mon, Rosa, put together a cogent and evidenced argument and come back to me. This is the way we both learn and maybe we'll change our positions. I started on what used to be the far left, which now seems fairly centrist. My opinions on an awful lot of things. have changed with time and perspective.

To add to what I said in response to you last night, this morning I've been canvassing for Labour and one of the women I've been walking around with has talked about how her family's ability to buy their council house in Cardiff in the 80s totally transformed the family fortunes. She's a working class Labour voter singing the praises of Thatcher's right-to-buy policy. What would you say to her?