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JKR & the Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht

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CantDealwithChristmas · 29/05/2024 08:02

So The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht book is out tomorrow (I have pre-ordered) and The Times today includes an extract from JK's chapter in which she lays out with searing honesty why she decided to speak out about the issue, and how the subsequent online monstering felt.

I don't know how to paste a paywall free link but this is the actual one: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-stand-up-women-trans-book-r6jlglpvq

I raised a wry smile at this part:

"People who’d worked with me rushed to distance themselves from me or to add their public condemnation of my blasphemous views (though I should add that many former and current colleagues have been staunchly supportive). In truth, the condemnation of certain individuals was far less surprising to me than the fact that some of them then emailed me, or sent messages through third parties, to check that we were still friends."

Can't help but wonder if it's Radcliff or Watson she's referring to here!

Who else has the book on pre-order and what are we looking forward to most about it?

JK Rowling: Why I decided to stand up for women

In exclusive extracts from a new book The Women Who Wouldn’t Wheesht, the Harry Potter author, a broken-hearted mother and a former prison governor tell the inside story of their fight for rights

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-stand-up-women-trans-book-r6jlglpvq

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Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 14:10

The book is very heavy!

I now own the kindle version as well!

Oh dear never mind!

💜

morningtoncrescent62 · 30/05/2024 14:17

The good news: My bookshop texted me to say the copy's arrived. The bad news: I can't get there till after work tomorrow. How will I wait?

SquirrelSoShiny · 30/05/2024 14:28

So looking forward to this book and thanks so much for the Share Tokens.

Every time I think I couldn't admire JKR more she amazes me anew.

RainWithSunnySpells · 30/05/2024 14:45

Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 12:38

Mine has arrived!

The sufragette cat t-shirt looks fab with the book! I hope you wear it when you are reading about not wheeshting!

INeedAPensieve · 30/05/2024 15:04

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 07:56

Mine should be arriving today. That's the weekend's reading sorted! Then my brother wants to borrow it. He's gay, and in the past few years has gone from full-on pro trans/the T belongs to the LGB to full on male terf as it's become painfully obvious how much the T takes from his rights and his visibility. I like to think I've had a good influence!

Aww this is good news re. your brother! This is one of the things that bothers me about gender ideology; how anti-gay a lot of the stuff is yet inexplicably a lot of gay men and lesbians don't (or won't) see the issues.

KohlaParasaurus · 30/05/2024 15:16

The book has landed. I have promised myself I'll finish my current book, which is unengaging but not unengaging enough not to finish, before getting started on it.

ArabellaScott · 30/05/2024 15:43

Looks great - congrats to all!

Hatmehit · 30/05/2024 15:56

Got my copy today. I’m about to make a cup of tea and head for the sofa for a read.

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 16:50

INeedAPensieve · 30/05/2024 15:04

Aww this is good news re. your brother! This is one of the things that bothers me about gender ideology; how anti-gay a lot of the stuff is yet inexplicably a lot of gay men and lesbians don't (or won't) see the issues.

As I understand it from him, there's a big difference in attitude between 'scene gays' (ie the guys who go to all the right clubs and get on the floats at Pride) and the 'non-scene gays' (ie people like my brother who love and sleep with men but don't regard gayness as the main facet of their personality, or even necessarily the most interesting thing about them).

the former tend to be very pro-T and anti-terf, the latter more nuanced or even terfy.

He doesn't know why this is although he speculates group think and also because 'scene gays' are more likely to work in a 'gay job' (his words not mine!) for a gay charity, not-for-profit or in the arts and media, where being rabidly pro-T is kind of de rigeur.

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ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 30/05/2024 16:52

I thought of you all when this was my view on the first table through the door at Waterstones earlier!

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duc748 · 30/05/2024 16:53

Can't complain it's not on prominent display, then! I meant to look in the Waterstones here today, but I didn't get round to it, will have a look tomorrow.

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 16:56

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 30/05/2024 16:52

I thought of you all when this was my view on the first table through the door at Waterstones earlier!

I absolutely love to see this!

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Nineteendozen · 30/05/2024 16:59

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 30/05/2024 16:52

I thought of you all when this was my view on the first table through the door at Waterstones earlier!

I am absolutely delighted that it's not been hidden away ( particularly as I have just remembered that I have a voucher that I cam use in Waterstones!)

ArabellaScott · 30/05/2024 16:59

Currently #10 in books at Amazon ... 😊

FrancescaContini · 30/05/2024 18:53

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 30/05/2024 16:52

I thought of you all when this was my view on the first table through the door at Waterstones earlier!

That’s fantastic!

My copy has arrived and I’m looking forward to it at bedtime!

Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 19:37

And I'm finished.

That was absolutely bloody fantastic.

Now I need food.

And a pee.

Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 19:40

RainWithSunnySpells · 30/05/2024 14:45

The sufragette cat t-shirt looks fab with the book! I hope you wear it when you are reading about not wheeshting!

I knew someone would notice what it was sat on! I did then put it on to read it! (It's got long sleeves and its freezing today)

duc748 · 30/05/2024 19:44

Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 19:37

And I'm finished.

That was absolutely bloody fantastic.

Now I need food.

And a pee.

You've read it already? 😮

Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 19:45

CantDealwithChristmas · 30/05/2024 12:45

I love the cover design!

It really is turning into such a good day. LRM's been suspended, puberty blockers have been banned and I've got my brand new copy just tantalisingly waiting to be read when I get home from work!

And under the dust jacket...

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Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 19:46

ElephantsDontReadFantasy · 30/05/2024 16:52

I thought of you all when this was my view on the first table through the door at Waterstones earlier!

Wonderful placement! The Terfs must be on shift today!

Boiledbeetle · 30/05/2024 19:48

duc748 · 30/05/2024 19:44

You've read it already? 😮

Other than a few brief interruptions, bloody neighbours! I have done nothing but read, make cups of tea and feed the cats! Once you start its very hard to put down!

SquirrelSoShiny · 30/05/2024 20:35

Amazon is currently giving 1-2 months delivery time :-( might have to get it on Kindle.

Chersfrozenface · 30/05/2024 20:46

ArabellaScott · 30/05/2024 16:59

Currently #10 in books at Amazon ... 😊

I just checked, it''s got a red "Best Seller" sticker thingy.

And once you click through to the book, a red #1 Best Seller in Gender Studies sticker. Is it just me who finds that amusing?

biddyboo · 30/05/2024 20:57

My copy arrived today. I can't wait to get stuck in. I've requested that my library orders a copy as well.

WeMeetInFairIthilien · 30/05/2024 20:58

Arrived at about 4:30.

Am roughly 2/3 of the way through.

Have had to duck out to pick up my Olio collection.

Once listed, I'll be finishing, tonight.

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