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Horrific Drag Race has anybody seen this?? **MNHQ CONTENT WARNING FOR GRAPHIC IMAGE***

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Blackcats7 · 27/05/2024 12:25

I can't believe my eyes. Season 9 apparently. Bloody breast tissue in the bag. Sickening.

Horrific Drag Race has anybody seen this?? **MNHQ CONTENT WARNING FOR GRAPHIC IMAGE***
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WarriorN · 28/05/2024 09:29

the look

'The look' is scars and blood.

'The look' is hands with knives in them, cutting flesh.

'The look' is turning blood into jewels.

'The look' is a cut and bleeding woman.

'The look,' this catwalk 'look' is physical mutilation of a healthy body for no reason other than aesthetic commercial reasons.

Peak misogyny and peak patriarchy.

WarriorN · 28/05/2024 09:34

I hope that wasn't too upsetting for those who've had surgery. I had a lumpectomy and symmetrical reconstruction. I was extremely reactive to all this shit for a good few months. Because breasts are so tied to image, motherhood, but used in fashion and consumerism and there are so many violent images on the internet

This reminds me of the fashion industry's trend for posing skeletal models in dying poses. Because thin and prone women are more easily over powered and therefore property of men.

It's a continuation of that tradition. Women are property to be controlled and moulded.

FrancescaContini · 28/05/2024 09:51

WarriorN · 28/05/2024 09:29

the look

'The look' is scars and blood.

'The look' is hands with knives in them, cutting flesh.

'The look' is turning blood into jewels.

'The look' is a cut and bleeding woman.

'The look,' this catwalk 'look' is physical mutilation of a healthy body for no reason other than aesthetic commercial reasons.

Peak misogyny and peak patriarchy.

I was thinking about this phrase “the look” and how appalling its use was by @TrulyFubar . You’ve articulated so well my jumbled thoughts. Thank you @WarriorN

Datun · 28/05/2024 10:03

And 'Gottmik' is a play on Got Milk, the advertising strap line for milk?

She's using a marketing tool for the purchase and consumption of milk to promote unnecessary mastectomies?

These people must've known how controversial and upsetting this would be.
They have sat around in meetings discussing whether or not they could get away with it.

But self harm, misogyny, and upsetting women with breast cancer were fanatically embraced in order to get higher ratings.

And yes, I hope people who thought drag race was just a bit of harmless fun now see it for the patriarchal, misogynistic brainwashing it is.

And I completely agree, don't fucking blame the world for voting for men like Trump when this is deemed acceptable.

MarieDeGournay · 28/05/2024 10:04

When I upload photos of anything, there's a little message asking Sensitive Content? Having had my stomach turned inside out and family loss evoked every time that despicable image appears - and thank you OP for alerting us to the awfulness of it - I wonder was it not possible to have the image hidden until clicked on, having been warned about the content?
Trivial 'trigger warnings' have had a bad press, but in some cases like this, they would be appreciated.

AlisonDonut · 28/05/2024 10:16

It needs a content warning on here, but is fine for national mainsream TV?

Make it make sense.

It's like when those parents read out porn in school board meetings and the school board go mad and yet, these are books in the school library.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/05/2024 10:24

TrulyFubar · 27/05/2024 12:39

GottMik is a Trans Man. Had you watched the episode and listened to his explanation, the look was regarding his own top surgery.

Elective double mastectomy. If you are old enough to sign the papers you are old enough to call it what it is without the twee euphemisms. She has chosen to amputate healthy breast still issue but looking at her arms she has not chosen to have a phalus fashioned out of arm flesh and tissue.

NotBadConsidering · 28/05/2024 10:35

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/05/2024 10:24

Elective double mastectomy. If you are old enough to sign the papers you are old enough to call it what it is without the twee euphemisms. She has chosen to amputate healthy breast still issue but looking at her arms she has not chosen to have a phalus fashioned out of arm flesh and tissue.

Because if she had she wouldn’t be able to walk down a catwalk for a long time. Or pee without a catheter. Or talk properly for a week or two. Or move properly. Or lift anything. Or stay out of hospital with the high complication rate.

WitchyWitcherson · 28/05/2024 10:37

Justme56 · 27/05/2024 13:03

More on Instagram. See the number of likes.

"Bio hazard tit bag"

Awful, just awful 😞

Completely trivialising major surgery, which many women go through without choice. My childhood best friend lost her mother to breast cancer (when my friend was just 14 years old). Breast cancer and its consequences are not a trivial matter.

And as for the PinkNews X post of their article a PP posted above. It reminds me of the worst of 4Chan - Put something out there that's grossly offensive and gory, then revel in people's outrage.

As for GottMik, I'm wondering whether in 5 years' time her drag race outfit will include showing off a pair of incontinence pants given the known effect of T on the female body. Or perhaps it's just the "elective" bits of transing she's going to highlight.

Abeona · 28/05/2024 10:40

I'm presuming this is the BBC — sorry, don't watch anything like this and I'm not interested in googling.

Complain to the BBC here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

Tim Davie is the director general: write to him via the BBC or you could try [email protected]

We have to complain and keep on complaining. And we need to ask Today, now Emma Barnett is on it, to discuss it.

Have Cancer Research and other breast cancer charities spoken out or are the silenced? They need to be speaking up about the distress that breast cancer sufferers feel when confronted by these images.

I have a Jewish friend who is living with cancer which started as breast cancer some years ago. She saw this image on Twitter and is now, I think, approaching the edge of a breakdown. The combination of a woman who has mutilated herself in order to participate with men in misogyny, plus the reports of women murdered by Hamas terrorists and having their breasts cut off, plus fear that whenever she next has to go into hospital she may be confronted by a virtue-signalling, anti-Semitic person or a male person when she has asked for female care, is too much for her. On top of that is all the distress of a woman who has had years on the cancer roller-coaster, clear at one test, back in treatment and with a worsening prognosis year after year. And the knowledge that young autistic girls going through a difficult puberty will think that lopping your breasts off is glamorous and fierce. What an absolute shitstorm.

I'm not buying a new TV licence when it comes due for renewal. We just won't watch the BBC. That won't be difficult. I hope thousands of others refuse too.

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2024 11:32

Abeona · 28/05/2024 10:40

I'm presuming this is the BBC — sorry, don't watch anything like this and I'm not interested in googling.

Complain to the BBC here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint

Tim Davie is the director general: write to him via the BBC or you could try [email protected]

We have to complain and keep on complaining. And we need to ask Today, now Emma Barnett is on it, to discuss it.

Have Cancer Research and other breast cancer charities spoken out or are the silenced? They need to be speaking up about the distress that breast cancer sufferers feel when confronted by these images.

I have a Jewish friend who is living with cancer which started as breast cancer some years ago. She saw this image on Twitter and is now, I think, approaching the edge of a breakdown. The combination of a woman who has mutilated herself in order to participate with men in misogyny, plus the reports of women murdered by Hamas terrorists and having their breasts cut off, plus fear that whenever she next has to go into hospital she may be confronted by a virtue-signalling, anti-Semitic person or a male person when she has asked for female care, is too much for her. On top of that is all the distress of a woman who has had years on the cancer roller-coaster, clear at one test, back in treatment and with a worsening prognosis year after year. And the knowledge that young autistic girls going through a difficult puberty will think that lopping your breasts off is glamorous and fierce. What an absolute shitstorm.

I'm not buying a new TV licence when it comes due for renewal. We just won't watch the BBC. That won't be difficult. I hope thousands of others refuse too.

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I don't think this episode has been on the BBC, but they do show Drag Race, I think? At this point it just looks like outrageous woman hatred being pushed by our national broadcaster.

The amount of 'drag' output the BBC have overall is absurd.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07kt8b4

BBC Three - RuPaul's Drag Race UK

RuPaul makes the trip across the pond in search of the most charismatic queen in the land.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07kt8b4

CrossPurposes · 28/05/2024 11:45

https://x.com/adammcarter/status/1791225732594581831

For those on Twix a thread of recent BBC news items on drag.

x.com

https://x.com/adammcarter/status/1791225732594581831

AderynBach · 28/05/2024 11:46

I saw it on Twitter. It's beyond belief (almost - sadly this is where we are).

oolovelycuppa · 28/05/2024 12:16

Film censors in the UK used to edit any ‘self-mutilation’ out of media to be shown here. I wish we still had that kind of safeguarding practise.

Blackcats7 · 28/05/2024 13:54

Just wanted to say thank you mumsnet hq for the warning added. I didn't know how to hide the picture and thought the title gave enough warning. Apologies to anybody who saw the picture and wishes they hadn't.
As pp have said this is not yet on the bbc but Drag Race is reglarly on the bbc and is heavily promoted which shows the bbc condones the shows content and direction.
I have a friend who goes to "drag bingo" every week who doesn't think any more about it than it is vulgar humour which she clearly finds funny. I have to sit on my hands whenever she posts pics on her fb from her latest night out. Might try and speak to her after this atrocity but it is a fine line between giving information and not wanting to try and push my views on to friends.
I think a huge number of people just aren't aware of the harm what started as one thing with the likes of Lily Savage's entertaining social commentary has done as it becomes more and more sexist and extreme and morphs into outright misogyny like this horror.

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Grammarnut · 28/05/2024 14:05

TrulyFubar · 27/05/2024 12:39

GottMik is a Trans Man. Had you watched the episode and listened to his explanation, the look was regarding his own top surgery.

That doesn't make it better. A mentally ill woman has her breasts chopped off and then makes a disgusting video about it, with 'breast tissue' in a bag. Well, at least we can see how sick she is. Poor woman.

SoundTheSirens · 28/05/2024 14:09

Tallisker · 27/05/2024 15:03

Fuck. I've just had a mastectomy due to cancer and this has made me sick to my stomach and wanting to cry for my horrible but necessary mutilation. Fuck fuck fuck. I can't do this any more.

Oh Tallisker. I hope you're okay. Sending you love and strength and all good wishes for a full recovery. This is doubly vile that it's made you feel like this.

IfMichaelMosleysVoiceWasWrittenasMusicalScore · 28/05/2024 14:12

Might try and speak to her after this atrocity but it is a fine line between giving information and not wanting to try and push my views on to friends.

@Blackcats7 asking careful questions might be more productive than anything else. Good luck.

EdithStourton · 28/05/2024 14:25

Thinking some more about this (and NOT looking at that pictures again), as I think others have said, this has crystallised my views on drag. I've shifted over the years from thinking, 'Meh, not my thing, vaguely entertaining' to 'Um, this pisses me off and I don't like it but let people get on with it if it's their thing' to today, 'Oh, just fuck off with this shit!'

Pride is about to hit our local small town. The FB post with all the flyers is out, and it's 70% drag, including a drag story hour. The rest seems to be things like the raffle...

I have a gay friend who lives about 150 yards from what will be Pride epicentre on the big day who emphatically does NOT want a pride advert board on his lawn. He says he has no idea why the QTI got tacked onto the LGB and detests the word queer ('That's what you used to hear when someone was about to beat you up').

I'm seeing him this evening. I might sound him out on drag...

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/05/2024 14:56

Why do the have such ugly hatched faces?

EasternStandard · 28/05/2024 15:02

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2024 14:42

Maybe they should consider the damage shown on this thread

IfMichaelMosleysVoiceWasWrittenasMusicalScore · 28/05/2024 15:04

HoneyButterPopcorn · 28/05/2024 14:56

Why do the have such ugly hatched faces?

Because they feel so threatened by the strength of women.

CrossPurposes · 28/05/2024 15:17

ArabellaScott · 28/05/2024 14:42

If Newsweek writer was so confident of his position where is an image of the performance in question in that piece?

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